It’s all dubbele speech. When i got aware of that, it was not possible to attend meetings anymore, without hurting myself. So I had to fade for health reasons. For 10 years now, feeling better then ever 👍👍👍.
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Gorbatchov
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Manipulative language
by Hendrixgrip insomeone recently included the phrase from a talk, “cherished errors”, which made me think about something i wanted to get off my chest.
the societies use of manipulative language has been discussed on this site many time and i hope this adds to the ammunition to fight back against them.
periodically , i’ll run into someone and they’ll say “hendrixgrip, why don’t you come to the meetings anymore.” i’ll give them some not too specific reason like, “i’m struggling with the overlapping doctrine”.
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Is the org. Laying the groundwork for no earthly paradise?
by nowwhat? inin stephen letts annual meeting talk he spent about 15min.
talking about how the garden of eden compares to our spiritual paradise that we are currently inhabiting.
he didn't mention the earthly paradise until the very last sentence.
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Gorbatchov
I was thinking the same when seeing it. No future paradise.
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Who else had to sit though last weeks WT study, 6th Jan 2019 - "Buy Truth and Never Sell It"
by skin inthat title, “buy truth and never sell it”.
is that not our goal has jw’s, to try to sell the truth to those who have the right heart condition to accept it?.
para 9: “when the fishermen peter and andrew were invited by jesus to become “fishers of men,” they “abandoned their nets.” (matt.
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Gorbatchov
So happy to miss this nonsense since fading.
It's all made up for their own purpose.
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Flawed Website
by pinkpizza inwhen i first seen this website i actually thought it was a jw website hence the home page and not an ex jw website and i posted a topic thinking people were real witnesses then i quickly discovered it was not and all these people were commenting and embarrassing me and i couldn’t even delete the thread.
then i asked the admin to delete it and i said it was very misleading saying it’s a jw page and he’s like are you serious i deleted your topic and now you are attacking me and it clearly says ex jw page.
he was very rude and btw no where does it say ex jw and you should be able to delete your own threads you start.
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Gorbatchov
Get a life.
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Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale
by Addison0998 inso one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.
there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.
he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.
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Gorbatchov
Take the doctor Luke for example instead of Jo Publisher.
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WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.
lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.
after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.
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Gorbatchov
The fact that this subject arives now in the magazine made clear that the layoff/ reorganization effect is a real problem.
It is just a business corporation.
Best life ever?!?
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Simon's Forum Is More Than Just a Forum!
by Atlantis infriends:.
simon's forum is much more than just a forum where we come to expose the watchtower.
it is a place that simon wanted people to be able to come to, to receive help, support, or find a compassionate listener.. this forum has exposed the watchtower more times than any forum on the net.
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Gorbatchov
What a lovely post. Yes, this is a great site and forum. Would not know what to do without it.
We are all in a same sort of situation, the forum gives me power to go on.
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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing
by Simon inwhatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.
the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.
now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.
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Gorbatchov
This is the translated quote:
“acknowledgment at the station is not for everyone, says Stet. "We are looking for representative people: young, well-dressed, a friendly smile, and just as cru: people are not convinced by a crippled old person.”
Here the news paper issue:
https://www.trouw.nl/home/de-nieuwe-strategie-van-de-jehova-s-getuigen~a026f3e5/
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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing
by Simon inwhatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.
the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.
now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.
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Gorbatchov
Here in Holland there was an article in a nation wide newspaper about the Cart replacing the house to house work.
One of the jw’s said: “there is a selection, because we don’t want an old age person behind the Cart it must look fresh”.
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26 Years Later
by Victor ini'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the watchtower.
back then it was the wild wild west with newsgroups being the primary sources of information.
then came watchtower observer, freeminds, and all the other sites that followed jwd was one of the later sites.
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Gorbatchov
I remember H2O was my first JW information source site, and the MT technology website.
Early 1997 😬 omg.
G.