It would serve their entire religion better to view blood transfusions as venial sins rather than mortal sins.
The Courts are binding them to not place excommunication over the heads of their followers in medical issues.
i was talking with "worldly" friends the other day and they mentioned a jw friend they knew who recently had some serious surgery and received a special dispensation so that she could have blood for this surgery.
that's what they claim she told my friends....the husband is an elder, and it was suggested that through his contacts that he was able to get this for her.
i expressed disbelief and have asked my friends to see if they can get more info about her "dispensation" and whether she actually recv'd whole blood or fractions during surgery.
It would serve their entire religion better to view blood transfusions as venial sins rather than mortal sins.
The Courts are binding them to not place excommunication over the heads of their followers in medical issues.
when my dad died on november 9th none of my jw family turned to comfort my mother, no phone calls no cards no words of comfort.
its over a month now and still they havent made any contact.
it doesnt really matter since they are all jws on my moms side but dads side of the family are catholic so they were all there to give the strength needed to cope.
The Society really missed/messed up the whole social connection that should be part of any religious community.
Nixing congregation picnics, control of weddings and parties, demonizing social outings in general or a least always putting them in a bad light like everyone was going to go out and build a golden calf. Well the leadership got the religion they wanted.
a jw i know i very fond of telling people that he read apostate stuff in the early 80's and that when he later came into the turth it was proved to him that it was all lies ( the apostate info that is).
i've always wondered what it was he read, and how it could have been refuted by the dubs?.
and no, i've got no way of asking him, not without landing myself in hot water.
Do you remember his Radio show. It had demonstrations like the Service Meeting, how to witness to a Witness, pretty funny.
a jw i know i very fond of telling people that he read apostate stuff in the early 80's and that when he later came into the turth it was proved to him that it was all lies ( the apostate info that is).
i've always wondered what it was he read, and how it could have been refuted by the dubs?.
and no, i've got no way of asking him, not without landing myself in hot water.
I studied Walter Martin's 'Kingdom Of The Cults" with a XJesuit/Lawyer for 2 years. Interesting time. Poor old Walter wasn't much of a scholar.
by "theology" i mean "the study of god (gk.
: theos).. jws keep rabbiting on ad nauseum about the trinity teaching being "irrational", "impossible to understand", etc.. i do not want this thread to be about the trinitarian doctrine.. i want to be given an explanation of what a jw believes.
i have seen so many arrows and spears thrown by jws, i want to know exactly what they are defending.. i want to see an explanation of "god" that is rational and can be understood.. doug.
Jon,
With all due lack of respect for your theology the fundamental question is So What!
God, a Supreme Being, does and will do whatever is in the game plan for this universe, our part is to be care takers here.
Whatever theological tit you've been nursing on you must at some point come to the apex of the ethics question, or the traggic lack of ethics, inherent in the Trinity.
awake 2009 sept p.14 judge asked a pioneer in indonisia in court "would you tell others not to join the army?
no said andre "it is for them to decide....." .
theocratic war strategy!
During the Vietnam war I asked the Society for assistence with my Court case.
Nadda, zilch. Off to prison I went.
the jw cult worships satan because they do not worship jesus as god.
if someone does not worship jesus as god then they are in reality worshipping satan.
minimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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password,
Its important to remember that Rutherford and Franz came from a Calvinistic background of Limited Atonement so their christology was going to be stilted. Add to that their affiliation with Russell and his Dispensationalist views and you have a real mess to begin with.
I thought at one point in the mid 90's there might have been a slight chance of reform but the articles written in the last few years show an entrenchment into the old ideas of Limited Atonment again.
my jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.
is this true and is it the best?
are there scholars who disagree?.
The Committee had access to some fine libraries like the American Bible Society. Mostly they cross compared what they were doing with previous works like the American Standard, Rotherham, and Smith/Goodspeed and made a conscious decision to go against the grain of the KJV.
Some of todays modern "Loose translations" read smoother.
a sister rang and left a message to see how we are....but i called back the next day and she said...."oh sorry i have no time to talk, the circuit oversear is coming for dinner, can you call back?
" this reminds me of c.o dinners it's a major suck up...like jesus and his apostles are coming for dinner.
the pioneers like this sister always get the c.o to come over.. anyone had the pleasure?.
My wife made a Kiwi pie for desert after the dinner. The CO enjoyed it, his wife looked at it like it was green glowing goo from Mars.