Hikaru, why are you so scared? Why do you feel compelled to look for anything that might look like anything that may hurt you when you are already just fine in God's Eyes. Those that are His will be His, and nothing will harm them. Be at Peace. We are ALL his. Even the ornery ones who are picking at you here. Go get some sunshine and take a walk in the park, or down the street. By yourself an ice cream cone and let go of the fears that are keeping you tied to the news, the media, the computer....they feed you trash. Go fishing. Go swimming. Go shopping and pay for someone else's purchase at the grocery store if they are short on money...do something wonderful for someone else....be at Peace.
CrimsonBleu
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THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT?!!!!
by Hikaru ingoogle alerts caught this.. http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2009/07/17/news0133.htm.
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summit ends with call for global peace .
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by Maddie ini found this information about how we may be viewed as ex jw members as to our credibility on the things we say about the wt.
i found it a little worrying to be honest, so i thought i would take a long, hard look at myself.
academics debate as to the reliability of the testimonies of critical former members (apostates).
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CrimsonBleu
Mind Control fodder.
WTS IS the Apostate. They turn to Men and Mediate for rightful connection to God. They kick Jesus to the curb and put themselvels in his place, knowing full well that he is the Way to the Father. WTS Takes the Truth of what Jesus taught and twists it to their agenda, then adds Paul's teachings, which so much of were not of jesus. WTS has turned their back on God by by using His Name to justiffy their OWN doctrine, created to suite their own agenda. WTS uses fear and retribution, punishment and disassociation as a manipulative tactic to heard their sheep. WTS started a sect in the Name of God to steer true lovers of God away from God, and demanded focus on their counsel...littered with false teachings, to serve them.
I did not need to rehearse anything....it just came out of me naturally to walk away.
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I feel so discouraged
by mouthy inthat micheal jacksons kids are being raise in the wt.
how very,very sad.
i am so upset about that..
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CrimsonBleu
Yes, Mouthy, but they will grow older and more wiser as so many have.
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Apostacloset: BIG NO NO!
by White Dove ini made a mistake when talking to a df'd person i used to know in my old congregation.
she was super pioneer at the time, and i just found her on fb and found out she's df'd.
i used the word "apostacloset" when explaining that i'll come out of it when the time's right.
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CrimsonBleu
White Dove, your daughter rocks! You did the right thing making an apology, much bigger and better than she could do for you.
If she has been out 3 yers, then where is her head at? If she cares that much about JW life, then what's taking?Remember, you did the right thing. Don't carry that negative crap she spat at you...you' re better than that. Let it go and leave her to her own misery. You did not mean to harm, but she did.
"Self rightous bitch:....hahhahahahahahaaa Hug your girl for me!
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So lets stop talking about what we can't do...
by Mickey mouse in...and discuss what we can do.. what could we reasonably do that may loosen the stranglehold the wbts has on it's membership?.
how can we effectively educate jws about other cults and the way they operate?.
is there a way to get this information into their collective psyche?.
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CrimsonBleu
Hey Mickey, I like the way you think....outside the box. I have been brainstorming too, but what I run into is fear of change, fear of retribution, fear altogether. Not in myself...but others.
I posted a wild concept last week that went on the back pages in a short while. Of course it really WAS a wild hair---Mass Exodus of the WTS all in one day. If everyone who had so much as a single doubt, let that be their guide and get out! If the entire family went, and friends and anyone who wanted to break free but were too chicken, that would be their chance.
I wonder how Jesus would answer your idea?
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Apostacloset: BIG NO NO!
by White Dove ini made a mistake when talking to a df'd person i used to know in my old congregation.
she was super pioneer at the time, and i just found her on fb and found out she's df'd.
i used the word "apostacloset" when explaining that i'll come out of it when the time's right.
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CrimsonBleu
What would White Dove have to lose by sharing thisthread? Maybe the friend would see there is a whole world of folks out here that DO care about her and understand, and maybe, just maybe, find some peace. I don't know, it was just a thought. Glad you made the apology WD, those things go a looong way in mending rifts.
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Make Your Case for God's Existence
by Megachusen inquite a few of the ex-jw's on this site are either atheist or agnostic.
i figured that it would be interesting if the theist side could make their case for god's existence and then non-theists could either debate the points or concede, depending on the arguments given.. so, if you believe in a god, please tell us your most convincing argument for why we should aswell..
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CrimsonBleu
I posted this on another thread awhile ago, but this is well suited for this thread too: What more could you need?
Scientist discovered a “map” of four DNA bases that carry the ability to sustain life. These bases, known as chromosomes, are paired differently for each person. Human DNA contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, made up of hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon, and their acidic counterparts. Encoded within these elements is an amazing blueprint of life that proves the Creator has put His own unique stamp upon every person. This stamp is actually His name as revealed to Moses thousands of years ago.
It was from the burning bush that the Almighty revealed his character as the great “I AM.” This name is the tetragrammaton of the Hebrew letters yod, hey, waw, hey. “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: `I AM has sent me to you. The Almighty said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, `Y H W H , the mighty one of our fathers… This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation,” Exodus 3:14,15. The Almighty has given us His name as a sign of His existence and an avenue of communication. However, translators have hidden this Hebrew name in English Bibles. In the Scriptures, the Sacred name of YHWH is used whenever the English words “LORD” or “GOD” appear in all capital letters. YHWH is used almost 7,000 times throughout the Bible as the only and unique name of the Mighty One of Israel. Isaiah corroborates this: "I am YHWH; that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, " Isaiah 42:7. Jeremiah adds his confirmation: "They shall know that my name is YHWH," in chapter 16 verse 21. While Amos 5:8 says, "YHWH is his name." The book of Zechariah declares: "In that day there shall be one YHWH, and his name one." The Creator’s Name is YHWH.
Now, compare this four-lettered name to the four elements that make up human DNA and discover an ancient secret of creation. “The key to translating the code of DNA into a meaningful language is to apply the discovery that converts elements to letters. Based upon their matching values of atomic mass, hydrogen becomes the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen becomes the letter Hey (H), oxygen becomes the letter Wav (V or W), and carbon becomes Gimel (G). These substitutions now reveal that the ancient form of YHWH’s name, YHWH, exists as the literal chemistry of our genetic code. Through this bridge between YHWH’s name and the elements of modern science, it now becomes possible to reveal the full mystery and find even greater meaning in the ancient code that lives as each cell of our bodies.
When we substitute modern elements for all four letters of YHWH’s ancient name, we see a result that, at first blush, may be unexpected. Replacing the final H in YHWH with its chemical equivalent of nitrogen, YHWH’s name becomes the elements hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen (HNON) — all colorless, odorless, and invisible gases! In other words, replacing 100 percent of YHWH’s personal name with the elements of this world creates a substance that is an intangible, yet very real form of creation! This is not to suggest that YHWH is simply a wispy gas made of invisible elements. Rather, it’s through the very name that YHWH divulged to Moses over three millennia ago that our world and the foundation of life itself became possible. YHWH tells us that in the form of hydrogen, the single most abundant element of the universe, He is a part of all that has ever been, is, and will be.
Indeed, in the earliest descriptions of YHWH, we are told that He is omnipresent and takes on a form in our world that cannot be seen with our eyes. Thus, He can be known only through His manifestations. The Sepher Yetzirah describes this nonphysical form of YHWH’s presence as the “Breath” of YHWH: “Ten Sefirot of Nothingness: One is the Breath of the Living YHWH, Life of worlds. This is the Holy Breath.”
Additionally, the first chapters of Genesis relate that it is in a nonphysical form that the Creator was present during the time of creation (Genesis 1:2). It was “the spirit of YHWH” that first moved over the face of the earth.
Substituting modern elements for the ancient letters, it is clear that although we share in the first three letters representing 75 percent of our Creator’s name. While the presence of YHWH is the invisible and intangible form of the three gases hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen, the last letter of our name is the "stuff" that gives us the color, taste, texture, and sounds of our body: carbon. The one letter that sets us apart from YHWH is also the element that makes us "real" in our world - carbon.Through both the secret letter codes of antiquity, and the literal translation of DNA as an alphabet, we’re shown that something about our existence remains lasting and eternal. We share that never-ending quality with our Creator through a full seventy-five percent of the elements that define our genetic code,” wrote Gregg Braden in his book The God Code.
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Apostacloset: BIG NO NO!
by White Dove ini made a mistake when talking to a df'd person i used to know in my old congregation.
she was super pioneer at the time, and i just found her on fb and found out she's df'd.
i used the word "apostacloset" when explaining that i'll come out of it when the time's right.
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CrimsonBleu
Would a sincere apology to her for seeming insensitive help? Maybe copy/paste this thread and give it to her?
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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?
by Yizuman insource: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.
well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.
thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.
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CrimsonBleu
Consider this:
Scientist discovered a “map” of four DNA bases that carry the ability to sustain life. These bases, known as chromosomes, are paired differently for each person. Human DNA contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, made up of hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon, and their acidic counterparts. Encoded within these elements is an amazing blueprint of life that proves the Creator has put His own unique stamp upon every person. This stamp is actually His name as revealed to Moses thousands of years ago.
It was from the burning bush that the Almighty revealed his character as the great “I AM.” This name is the tetragrammaton of the Hebrew letters yod, hey, waw, hey. “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: `I AM has sent me to you. The Almighty said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, `Y H W H , the mighty one of our fathers… This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation,” Exodus 3:14,15. The Almighty has given us His name as a sign of His existence and an avenue of communication. However, translators have hidden this Hebrew name in English Bibles. In the Scriptures, the Sacred name of YHWH is used whenever the English words “LORD” or “GOD” appear in all capital letters. YHWH is used almost 7,000 times throughout the Bible as the only and unique name of the Mighty One of Israel. Isaiah corroborates this: "I am YHWH; that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, " Isaiah 42:7. Jeremiah adds his confirmation: "They shall know that my name is YHWH," in chapter 16 verse 21. While Amos 5:8 says, "YHWH is his name." The book of Zechariah declares: "In that day there shall be one YHWH, and his name one." The Creator’s Name is YHWH.
Now, compare this four-lettered name to the four elements that make up human DNA and discover an ancient secret of creation. “The key to translating the code of DNA into a meaningful language is to apply the discovery that converts elements to letters. Based upon their matching values of atomic mass, hydrogen becomes the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen becomes the letter Hey (H), oxygen becomes the letter Wav (V or W), and carbon becomes Gimel (G). These substitutions now reveal that the ancient form of YHWH’s name, YHWH, exists as the literal chemistry of our genetic code. Through this bridge between YHWH’s name and the elements of modern science, it now becomes possible to reveal the full mystery and find even greater meaning in the ancient code that lives as each cell of our bodies.
When we substitute modern elements for all four letters of YHWH’s ancient name, we see a result that, at first blush, may be unexpected. Replacing the final H in YHWH with its chemical equivalent of nitrogen, YHWH’s name becomes the elements hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen (HNON) — all colorless, odorless, and invisible gases! In other words, replacing 100 percent of YHWH’s personal name with the elements of this world creates a substance that is an intangible, yet very real form of creation! This is not to suggest that YHWH is simply a wispy gas made of invisible elements. Rather, it’s through the very name that YHWH divulged to Moses over three millennia ago that our world and the foundation of life itself became possible. YHWH tells us that in the form of hydrogen, the single most abundant element of the universe, He is a part of all that has ever been, is, and will be.
Indeed, in the earliest descriptions of YHWH, we are told that He is omnipresent and takes on a form in our world that cannot be seen with our eyes. Thus, He can be known only through His manifestations. The Sepher Yetzirah describes this nonphysical form of YHWH’s presence as the “Breath” of YHWH: “Ten Sefirot of Nothingness: One is the Breath of the Living YHWH, Life of worlds. This is the Holy Breath.”
Additionally, the first chapters of Genesis relate that it is in a nonphysical form that the Creator was present during the time of creation (Genesis 1:2). It was “the spirit of YHWH” that first moved over the face of the earth.
Substituting modern elements for the ancient letters, it is clear that although we share in the first three letters representing 75 percent of our Creator’s name. While the presence of YHWH is the invisible and intangible form of the three gases hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen, the last letter of our name is the "stuff" that gives us the color, taste, texture, and sounds of our body: carbon. The one letter that sets us apart from YHWH is also the element that makes us "real" in our world - carbon.Through both the secret letter codes of antiquity, and the literal translation of DNA as an alphabet, we’re shown that something about our existence remains lasting and eternal. We share that never-ending quality with our Creator through a full seventy-five percent of the elements that define our genetic code,” wrote Gregg Braden in his book The God Code.
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sometimes i am just mean ....
by troubled mind ini really don't want to be really i am mostly sweet ,kind,lovable and understanding in every way ......only sometimes a mean streak raises it's purty head and i exude meaness ...... .
this past week the jw in-laws came up from florida to visit .
when they lived here we were very close ,i thought , but of course we were still active then too .
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CrimsonBleu
You are mean sometimes because you are not being true to yourself. You are living somone else's truth for the sake of keeping peace and being respectful. You don't like being fake. You don't like the chatty gossip and the sugary sweet brotherly love crap that makes you want to tell them to shut up and go away. Been there. I still see it in my JW sisters. Gla I am OUT!