I thought the GB, as was, resigned and a myriad of corporations were formed. The FDS doctrine will be new lighted soon.
ISP
this may have come up before in discussion so my apologies if it old stuff.
interesting point that the district overseer seemed to make a distinction between the governing body and the faithful and discreet slave class.
when i was growing up it was always the same thing.
I thought the GB, as was, resigned and a myriad of corporations were formed. The FDS doctrine will be new lighted soon.
ISP
did you find that there were some dubs that seemed to be always after something for nothing...........always on the take?!
it would make you laugh sometimes and you might think it was just a funny way some had.
other times it was quite annoying!.
Did you find that there were some dubs that seemed to be always after something for nothing...........always on the take?! I came across quite a few. It would make you laugh sometimes and you might think it was just a funny way some had. Other times it was quite annoying!
Any thoughts?
ISP
i guess you know i love you.. but what i would really like to do right now.
is ravish you until you see god.. .
and there's no point in asking.
Nice poem!
ISP
i've read my fair share of their pubs, and nowhere, ever have i seen a clearly stated repentance or a humble confession on the part of the wts.
i know that they have delicately admitted a mistake here and there, but it's always overshadowed by the self-praise logic that overall we should be thankful for the mistake.
the bible specifically speaks against that.
I don't think the WTS feel they have to apologise. Dubs aren't clamouring for it. They just have to go on and essentially all will be forgotten.........not by us!
ISP
an inactive friend just spoke to some elders who, not from the platform but one-on-one, said they believe the coming war with iraq will cause world war iii and armageddon.
has anyone else heard this?
it may be that some are using this as a tactic to scare inactives back into the watchtower society along with their needed donations, especially since the pedophile and wts-u.n. scandals.
Well the war will be over quickly. Saddams weapons......which he doesn't have lots of (ask weapons inspectors) will be taken out.
I see Iraq being taken out pretty quick.
I don't see too many folks arguing about it.
ISP
so many people have given up families and careers, sold their homes, given away all their money, abandonded their children and are searching for the truth about this most important matter, brothers and sisters.
this is a most serious issue in these "trying times" that we need to resolve.
after all, jehovah is watching us, and we simply cannot piss him off now, can we?
i think Simon should check the IP addresses and stuff like that.
ISP
Eminem's UK shows sell out
Fans have snapped up all the available tickets for Eminem's forthcoming UK gigs.
The rapper is set to play Milton Keynes Bowl on June 21 and 22, and Hampden Park in Glasgow on June 24.
Tickets for the first Milton Keynes show sold out in just 16 minutes, before organisers added the second date.
The Glasgow show was sold out within 45 minutes.
Eminem will also play his first ever Irish concert at Punchestown Racecourse on June 26, with tickets due to go on sale at 8am on February 8, www.mcd.ie reports.
In the Uk, Eminem seems to be a recent phenomenom. getting tickets to see him is.......like finding a WT true prophecy.. he is touring the UK later in the year. Both venues are sold out. The last one for Glasgow sold all 40,000 tickets in 40 mins!
ISP
Ticketless Class
we occasionally get wind of new lies being spread about us in our old jw community.
having 'served' in fourteen different congregations in six states often serving where the 'need is great', one decade in the fulltime work and nearly two decades as a po, it appears are current status with the organization is causing a bit of a scandal.
yesterday we received a phone call from an old friend at bethel.
Well........I can agree with jst2laws. I lost my faith in WTdom a while back. I clung onto some idea that i could also be 'spiritual' but after further research I take the view that there was very little correct in what the WT put forward.
I have little official 'spirituality' but I have some common sense.
ISP
let me start by saying that i deplore much of the teachings of the watchtower and am convinced that it is not "the truth.
" either through ignorance, error or deliberate action they have caused great heartache for thousands and unknown heartache for millions.
i have thoroughly disconnected myself from their teachings and would rightly speak out against what i know to be harmful in that organization.
Logans run,
Do the GB know the truth? i.e. They are not 'mouthpieces' or a FDS. Of course they do. The esoterics of the GB was blown apart by Ray Franz who wrote the 'Aid' book when he was not a GB member without any meaningful input or supervision by the 'GB'. They would however present it as from them.When he got on the GB, he could see that when those doors close, nothing special happens. I am entirely satisfied that those at the top know its all a game. The game at the moment is damage limitation.
ISP