Congrats Hippikons! Sweet memories!
ISP
one of our favourite posters is the proud father of a newborn baby boy.. in this world full of woe, it's nice to bring good and happy news.. congratulations to the proud parents, mr and mrs hippikon!.
cheers,.
ozzie.
Congrats Hippikons! Sweet memories!
ISP
the wts will condemn the recent murder and do its best to distance itself from the parents.
jws will say its the actions of people who are deranged and nothing to do with jws.
they will say other religious groups harm children.
Oh BTW I am not talking about culpability in a legal sense! The scriptures talk about 'responsibility' etc with regard to organisations, groups and the like. The WTS points out the failings of other belief systems so I think it is fair to measure them by the same yardstick.
So thats why Farkel is completely and utterly wrong IMHO!
ISP
the wts will condemn the recent murder and do its best to distance itself from the parents.
jws will say its the actions of people who are deranged and nothing to do with jws.
they will say other religious groups harm children.
Farkel
We are talking about a religious organisation that chooses to intrude into every area of its followers lives. What it says and does not say on this issue is highly relevant. It still condones physical punishment of minors, which is public(at meetings) and will influence others to treat their kids in a similar fashion so as to fit in. This culture will breed abuse, particularly in certain individuals. If worldy governments can act so as to protect children...would you not expect God's 'nation' to do more so?
The WTS will claim the plaudits when there is something good to say...i.e. some individual act of kindness etc! But when there is a problem they run a mile. Haha! For the WTS to be blameless they would have to have a clear stand of discouraging physical punishment which they don't.
I would not be concerned about getting 'anywhere'. This is an important issue and the WTS stance deserves to be made known. Thats about it.
ISP
who really fit this description of apostasy?.
*** w80 8/1 17-22 remain "solid in the faith" ***.
remain solid in the faith.
Hey Francois....you seemed to have lost it man! I'd take a break!
Pureheart...thanks for bringing this subject up. It is true to say that as time goes by....the difference or deviation from the previous stance is more clear. The 'truth' of today is unrecognisable from that of Russell's day. From his point of view JWs of today would be apostate and the JWs would say that any that don't 'keep up' are apostate...so it's one of those things that either side can call the other....Best to say it first though!
As far as 'we' are concerned I like the quote here...
As to the effects of a course of apostasy, one immediate result is a loss of joy. The apostate becomes hardened in his rebellious ways. Another is he fails to take in the spiritual food provided by “the faithful and discreet slave”—this leading to spiritual weakness and breakdown of spirit.
Well I don't feel that myself! I guess many others are the same. Rather loss of joy and depression are commonplace amongst JWs.
ISP
...for jack daniels.. and bose.
and boeing.. and microsoft.. but, 'specially for jack daniels!.
englishman.. nostalgia isn't what it used to be....
Thank you Japan...for Nintendo! haha!
ISP
how many of you still believe in god after your experience of the watchtower?
do you believe in a different god than the one of the org.
one who won't destroy somebody just because he wasn't in the good religion.
I tend to believe there is a God...but he is not active...so don't get heated up about anything.
ISP
the wts will condemn the recent murder and do its best to distance itself from the parents.
jws will say its the actions of people who are deranged and nothing to do with jws.
they will say other religious groups harm children.
Hi thewiz....I saw physical punishment condoned every meeting. Don't you remember all those trips to the bathroom? I think if you have to beat the ....out of your kids to teach them road safety...you have a problem.
ISP
i want to send lots of christmas greetings cards this year.
i especially want to send a card to dozens of posters from this site.
i suppose the obvious answer is that folks email me with an address.
Haha! Eman...I guess I can send yours to the Pompey Fan club!
ISP
here's the chance to finally find out what we suspected all along:.
are you evil?
find out at http://www.emode.com/emode/tests/evil.jsp.
Are You Evil?
This is what it said about me!
Good news — you're just a little evil, which means you're very human. But it's time to make a decision: Either shut out that damn conscience and be really bad, or start living life like a saint. Get more info on your evilness — sign up with Emode.com.I wonder what the WTS would have said?
ISP
i want to send lots of christmas greetings cards this year.
i especially want to send a card to dozens of posters from this site.
i suppose the obvious answer is that folks email me with an address.
What about getting a PO box...if you don't feel too happy giving your actual address out! Haha!
ISP