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Scientist At John Hopkins Say Magic Mushrooms Are Good For You
by frankiespeakin instudy at john hopkins on magic mushrooms:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcm6ldfecag&feature=related.
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230 MPG? Really?
by AK - Jeff inhttp://abcnews.go.com/business/justonething/story?id=8309867&page=1.
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JWoods
Regardless, I still think it is a good thing. I would buy one if they would put a bigger battery in it so I could go close to 100mph on a charge --and still be inexpensive enough to justify it.
BTS
100 MILES, or 100mph, BTS? It probably could do near 100mph for about a mile or so the way it is. The problem with these is always range. The Tesla needed to be TRAILERED the 25 or so miles to the track for the car magazine tests so the batteries would be full to get the 0-60 and 0-100 numbers. It was about shot after doing this a couple of times. That's the other big electric car range problem. Gas cars get faster until you run out of gas (lighter weight, less gas in tank). Electric cars get slower every time you push on the gas.
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So you thought Jw's had a corner on insane doctrine?
by AK - Jeff intry this - i almost wonder if this is not an offshoot:.
http://www.svetoch.org/en/calling_all_people_for_immortality/calling_all_people_for_immortality_2.html.
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JWoods
Try Scientology - not only more insane, but as expensive as your next LearJet if you have the money.
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230 MPG? Really?
by AK - Jeff inhttp://abcnews.go.com/business/justonething/story?id=8309867&page=1.
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JWoods
Yeah, but it's not getting all its power from fuel, so the number is meaningless. It's a plug in battery powered car with a gas engine backup.
This is exactly the case...its MPG could be infinite if you never drive more than 40 miles between charges and never accelerate enough to kick in the tiny gas engine. On the other hand, it ignores how much electricity it takes in from the grid. If you simply equate the KWH component taken from the plug-in option, then it will be nowhere near 230 or so mpg. This number is from an artificial "city cycle" where the gas motor does kick in, but VERY rarely. It makes for an impressive number in that specifically chosen test for advertising purposes. Less impressive is the fact that it costs $40,000.
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Are You Still 'Politically Neutral'?
by leavingwt inare any of you still 'politically neutral' for biblical reasons?
just curious.. .
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JWoods
OUTLAW -- You warmonger, you. LOL!
He is following the example of the great ancient Jewish war god.
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where do the refinements come from?, and why do you answer thus?
by Spike Tassel inbluecanary asks [with emphasis mine]:.
in the past when god's chosen leader acted without his blessing, god corrected the individual/group in an obvious and miraculous way.
why does it appear, then, that when the gb is "adjusted" it comes from external sources, such as the 1914 generation dying off, or races integrating nationwide.
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JWoods
Surely you jest, Tassel. Jw's are not allowed to do this, and you know it! You live under the giant Governing Body conscience umbrella - Jw's wouldn't know a personal conscience if they had one bite them in the ass. Sorry, but true.
Nothing could make this clearer than the draft rules (circa VietNam) and the pre-fractions blood rules. Nobody - NOBODY was allowed to follow their "christian conscience" - they would have been dissasociated if they had. (DA, not DF to protect the Society from liable)
Not a word of apology to the victims when all this got radically changed.
In fact, the Watchtower arrogantly wrote that if anybody got a prison term or had a relative die over these, they should "feel happy to have followed their conscience" - when in fact these people were just knuckling under to the iron regime of the day.
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Are You Still 'Politically Neutral'?
by leavingwt inare any of you still 'politically neutral' for biblical reasons?
just curious.. .
lwt.
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JWoods
It is important to remember that Witnesses themselves were never neutral either.
For a long time, they predicted that Russia would win the cold war (King of the North, King of the South). Before that, they thought it would be Hitler.
They have long demonized the United Nations (before that League of Nations) as the Satanic institution. Later they joined it for political expediency to infiltrate hostile foreign lands.
They managed to get the main leadership thrown into jail circa WW1 simply by making anti-american, anti-government political rhetoric. And claimed it as bible prophecy!
They insisted on hardline political stands on the draft during WW2 and VietNam, refusing to allow consciencous objector status and forcing us into prison. They simultaneously let male Witnesses in Mexico "buy off" their draft status by bribery. BTW, in Mexico they avoided religious status to preserve property rights (pretending to be a charity educational org).
They forced thousands of innocents into beatings, humiliations, jail, even murders - in Malawi...over a stupid ID card.
They have entered a practical death match here in the U.S. as well as France over sales and income tax issues. Seem to have lost both.
They have taken issues like Door-to-Door without licenses, Blood Transfusions, and Flag Salute into the court system all the way to SCOTUS.
Pretty hard to say you are neutral after that history. By this logic, ACORN would also be merely a neutral community organization.
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Unloaded on the husband of my wife's study sister last night, how much damage did I do to myself??
by insearchoftruth inwell had a really good weekend away from home, but i guess i knew that the respite from the wts would end.
tuesdays are the day my wife has her personal bible study with the sister and she has also had the husband come over on tuesday afternoons so the son can have the pleasure of a bible study (which he loathes, he is a high school junior and has no interest in this stuff).
i get home from work late, after a fairly long day and the guy is still there.
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JWoods
Excellent! I hope your wife (and especially your son) got a complete earful of this.
The greatest weakness of the Witnesses is that they do not know a thing about their own embarrassing history - as it is being hidden from them by their own organization.
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WHERE in the bible does it say each creative day was 6,000 years? Ending around 1975??
by Witness 007 incould be 8,000 or 18,000 years long......if to jehovah each "a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day.
" 1975 armagedon theory was based on this.
{notice how this theory has since died off} my wife was told off by an elder for giving a talk on "creative days not 24 hours" but not stating each was 6,000 years long...she said she didn't believe it....he backed off and said okay then!
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JWoods
Earnest's "new light" would fit (almost) perfectly with a millenium following the 7 x 7,000 period, like the Jubilee year came after 7 x 7 years. Iow, if the 1,000-year rule was the 50th millenium of creation (like the Jubilee year was the 50th) instead of the 49th (as in the WT pattern down to 1987 at least). Only that would put Armageddon in 2975...
Too bad including the millenium in the 7,000-year "day" was necessary to get the idea of 7,000-year days in the first place. :)
Yup - the circular "logic" is just overwhelming. Except, I guess, that the latest permutation of the Governing Body is still afraid of the radioactivity.
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Republican Witnesses and Democrat Witnesses
by inkling init seems to me that witnesses are political in .
much the same way they are racist: i.e.
but not out loud.. i recall a conversation during a coffee break.
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JWoods
It appears the logical evolution of a JW, or XJW in America, is to move to Republican. They prefer to have someone tell them how to think. Very simple straight forward hive mind type issues. Ruled by fear. Closed minded and short sighted. It must be comfortable to feel part of a group again, and the smug superior attitude transfers perfectly.
Pretty broad brush, there. I know of some close-mindedness on the other side (maybe even a "smug superior attitude") and,...perhaps the above quote reveals it nicely.
And I don't think the "logical evolution sequence" is necessarily correct, either. I see that at least on this board, conservatives are in the minority. Usually the same 2 or 3 conservative posters are here on an issue, and about twice that many liberals. The health care threads could be reviewed as a recent test.
Many (especially new escapees) are still consumed by quasi-witness purely religious issues, plus personal issues of keeping their family together after the shunning, and could care less about the dreaded "worldly politics".