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  WT Annual Meeting is tomorrow, 3 October, 2009.

  by Open mind in

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  anyone going?.

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  JWoods

  Be sure to have your proxies in early even if you plan to attend. You are not allowed to actually vote or comment.
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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  JWoods

  I hope I'm wrong, but I have a hunch we're being played.

  I also had enough of an odd feeling to go back at look at some post history.
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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  JWoods

  OK, now I really fail to get it...if he is a mortgage banker since 2001, was he being a mortgage banker while he was at Bethel (or the Farm)?

  OR - Do we take this to mean he left the Farm back in 2001, ran a mortgage banking business since then, and just got DFd a "couple of weeks ago"?

  One other little point - unless this was an incredibly dumb oversight on their part, I have trouble believing that any committee would send somebody just a blank sheet of paper in a certified letter about a committee meeting. What would that accomplish? After all, these people are about as legalistic as the SCOTUS.

  Also, was this supposed to be a Bethel committee? Why Bethel - did he leave Bethel in 2001 and never associate with any local congregation?

  Many questions seem to come up over this story.
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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  JWoods

  Angel Eyes - you do have to admit that most people here on JWD are quite skeptical of claims like this, especially when they come in as "Breaking News, Big Trouble". Especially when there is no evidence offered - just a claim.

  We have seen many such stories fizzle away in the past.

  Maybe you should be equally skeptical of some of the stuff the WTBTS spouts forth as well.
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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  JWoods

  Maybe original poster could fill this in with more detail? For example - what really were the DF charges? Surely that much at least is known, if they tried to have five committee meetings.

  What dirt did he have on them - or is this just a pissing match over job injury and work comp?

  Very mysterious, it would seem...
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  Is the Watchtower "Question and answer" study a form of brainwashing?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ask the question so it seems your having a reasonable debate/discussion.

  the answers are clearly in the paragraph while people are encouraged to keep their comments short {no personal thoughts} and simple.

  scriptures are qouted regardless of how trivial or stupid the ideas are {husbands and wives should not hug during prayer...stumbling luke 21 etc etc.

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  JWoods

  One of the absolute dumbest practices ever was to "study ahead" and underline a phrase here or there in the magazine.

  I have even seen people do this right during the meeting!
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  Polanski moral equivocation makes me sick...

  by avishai in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-z-shore/polanskis-arrest-shame-on_b_301134.html.

  http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/09/the_outrageous_arrest_of_roman.html.

  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/aleqm5jsliygp7jjrlsryfva5vj_hzhlsgd9b0f3503.

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  JWoods

  I think that so far Whoopie shows no signs of retracting or explaining these ridiculous statements. If she has, the media certainly has kept it well hidden; and I think that for once the media has had the guts to go against the Hollywood wackos on this issue.
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  The 4 Sexual Deviants

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  newer visitors to this board may not be aware of the fact that the first 4 watchtower leaders were all sexual deviants.

  i cannot for the life of me figure out how the creator could have personally selected these 4 men as leaders of his only true religion to be examples for all of the faithful.. i especially cannot figure out how the creator would figure these 4 sexual deviants should be used to give sexual marital advice and advice on raising children, since only 1 of the 4 had a kid and he pretty much abandoned that kid for a good part of the kids life.

  also, he was the only one who had ever actually had sexual relations although they were mostly adulterous ones.. charles taze russell took "the vow" before his marriage to maria.

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  JWoods

  Well, you might argue with the exact use of the term "Sexual Deviants". You might - I would agree with it.

  However the term, it is abundantly clear that all four of these guys were pretty odd ducks out of water on this subject.

  And to think that they took it upon themselves to literally tell hundreds of thousands (millions in later years) of normal married people what and what not to do is disturbing to say the least. But it may go to explain a lot of how these bizarre teachings got started. In particular, the Knorr genital phobia and fetishism is crazy express train on crazy track nine.

  Sort of like Ted Kennedy giving teenagers lessons on driving safety.
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  Laaaaaaaa! anyone remember the "showoff" singers?

  by highdose in

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  2. friends

  i can remember several.

  both male and female.

  belting and roaring out those awfull kingdom melodys as if to say " look how well/ loudly i sing, i'm so much more spirtual that all of you!".

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  Believe it or not, one of the loudest and worst I ever heard was old quack-bat Society lawyer Hayden Covington.

  Of course, he was characteristically drunk at the time.
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  Is the Watchtower "Question and answer" study a form of brainwashing?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ask the question so it seems your having a reasonable debate/discussion.

  the answers are clearly in the paragraph while people are encouraged to keep their comments short {no personal thoughts} and simple.

  scriptures are qouted regardless of how trivial or stupid the ideas are {husbands and wives should not hug during prayer...stumbling luke 21 etc etc.

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  JWoods

  One thing I always found to be just childish was how they ask the question, get a rote comment or two, and then READ THE PARAGRAPH OUT LOUD.

  Almost as if they are telling the audience that their comments might or might not be right, but that the written Watchtower has the last word on the subject.

  Pathetic.