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  So God can sin?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  something i've been thinking of.... god created humans in his image, yet it's possible for human's to sin, so therefore it's possible for god to sin right?.

  the jw's will throw the, "but jehovah can never lie", but if it's possible for him to sin then it's possible for him to lie about not lying?

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  JWoods

  Many things written about God are just man's views

  Well, who else wrote ANY of them - if not man?

  Who else decides for himself which are real - if not man?
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  So God can sin?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something i've been thinking of.... god created humans in his image, yet it's possible for human's to sin, so therefore it's possible for god to sin right?.

  the jw's will throw the, "but jehovah can never lie", but if it's possible for him to sin then it's possible for him to lie about not lying?

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  JWoods

  Sin is a human concept, one we apply to our actions against what we believe to be God's "law" or God's will, for US.

  God is no more subject to that human concept then God is to gravity.

  Beep-beep. Lets back up that truck. If Sin is a human concept, then God is also a human concept.
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  So God can sin?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something i've been thinking of.... god created humans in his image, yet it's possible for human's to sin, so therefore it's possible for god to sin right?.

  the jw's will throw the, "but jehovah can never lie", but if it's possible for him to sin then it's possible for him to lie about not lying?

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  A GLADIATOR thinks a lowly Computer Scientist is HARSH?

  OK - 1.5 points. For whatever difference it makes.

  I find it easier to just say God (or man's concept thereof) cannot logically sin - but for fundies, this violates the notion that God can do everything.

  Except, I guess, create himself.
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  So God can sin?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something i've been thinking of.... god created humans in his image, yet it's possible for human's to sin, so therefore it's possible for god to sin right?.

  the jw's will throw the, "but jehovah can never lie", but if it's possible for him to sin then it's possible for him to lie about not lying?

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  I think you are trying to put God in the role of Man and vice-versa, God is God and unique.

  God knows Sin and God is able to do anything within God's (unknown) nature and if that means that all possibilites are posible, even if not probable.

  Can God do soemthing against God's will? well, if God did something, how can it be against God's will ?

  I think this train of logic needs more work. The third (final) sentence is the key. The first one is non-sequiter, and the second makes no sense.
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  Mr Gran passed away this morning...

  by diana netherton in

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  she was 88. not a jw...so i guess she's in heaven?.

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  I wish I had more faith to believe something, ANYTHING more than this is all there is. I just

  can't bring myself to believe in a supreme being as depicted, whatever religion.

  I look at this viewpoint as a life challenge to do as much as we can, as well as we can, while we are here. The reward is the record we leave behind to society.

  I am sure your grandmother was such a person.
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  So God can sin?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something i've been thinking of.... god created humans in his image, yet it's possible for human's to sin, so therefore it's possible for god to sin right?.

  the jw's will throw the, "but jehovah can never lie", but if it's possible for him to sin then it's possible for him to lie about not lying?

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  So God CAN do something against his own will, PSacremento?

  Or, do you have a different definition of sin - (aside from "doing something against the will of God"?)
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  So God can sin?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something i've been thinking of.... god created humans in his image, yet it's possible for human's to sin, so therefore it's possible for god to sin right?.

  the jw's will throw the, "but jehovah can never lie", but if it's possible for him to sin then it's possible for him to lie about not lying?

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  I think witnesses would say (in typical JW circular logic) that "anything is possible for Jehovah", so therefore he could sin, but he chooses not to.

  In line with the same idea on whether God knew in advance whether Adam and Eve would sin - he could have known, according to JWs, but chose not to look into the future to see.

  Of course, the usual definition of "sin" is doing something against the will of God, so the question becomes (in that case) - can God do something against his own will. Thus being an essentially unanswerable hypothesis.

  And, of course, the silly witness statement that God "could have looked ahead and seen whether Adam would sin" is tantamount to saying that Adam was predestined to sin (i.e. - he had no "free will") - a Calvinist predestination tinged idea that witnesses themselves denounce.

  So this kind of foolish head games would just as well ask the classic: "Can God make a rock so big that he cannot pick it up?"
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  Do you hate to hear a very long story?

  by asilentone in

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  I like certain books (if they are good ones) which are long.

  I don't like long posts on the internet. If you have to scroll a post more than once, it is generally too long for the board, IMHO.
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  When men were made Elders, did you notice their personality change?

  by carvin in

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  i thought about this after reading flippers thread about how elders are appointed.

  great thread by the way.. i can recall many times when guys were made elders, and sometimes even made ms that their personility would change almost over night.

  i knew many nice, kind, elders and ms but many especially newly appionted ones would be, at times, just difficult to be around.

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  It was even worse when they used to have the "rotation of elders" back in the 70s - when many of the new elders were rotated into presiding overseer, they really got the bighead.

  We used to call this mental state the "napoleonic hitlers" behind their back.
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  Please help me with two things:

  by trebor in

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  please help me with two things:.

  from the atheist, how do you explain feelings/emotions?

  additionally: where do they originate?

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  Let me try this limited illustration: Say, for instance, President Obama is coming to your area bearing good tidings of plentiful jobs, excellent health care, adequate housing, etc.

  Based on his having done this numerous times in the past, I would be highly skeptical.