i am, of course, talking about the famous "watchtower" image.
they even built one on top of one of their buildings.... just wondering - does any other religion have some architectural symbol which they use as a sign of their belief?.
of course, there are crosses and the ancient egyptians had the pyramids (as did some early american primatives) -.
I am, of course, talking about the famous "watchtower" image. They even built one on top of one of their buildings...
Just wondering - does any other religion have some architectural symbol which they use as a sign of their belief?
Of course, there are crosses and the ancient Egyptians had the pyramids (as did some early American primatives) -
But is not this use of a watchtower building somewhat unique to the JWs? (and, if I might say - just a little like idolatry?)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.
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i too have fond memories of fred franz.
i served in brooklyn bethel from 1978 to 1987. brother franz would go to the 119 columbia heights sauna every wednesday night.
he had a small following of brothers, including me, who would also go on wednesday nights to the sauna just to pick his brain.
i haven't been on here much, including during the recent election.
i am curious if anyone knows what the opinions, official as well as non-official or "gossip" *gasp*, on the election and obama.
i remember as a kid my mother would always complain so much around election time, just like xmas, because she hated it so much.
the recent "generation" explanation redo says that the generation means the anointed living now, and we can still have more anointed, therefore there is no limit on how long the generation can run.
this is an attempt to keep 1914 alive and healthy.. however, the wts still teaches that the great crowd began to be gathered in the 1930's (ex: rutherford had people stand and said "behold, the great multitude) since revelation defines the great crowd as coming out of the great tribulation, doesn't that create a life span problem?
what is going through the minds of even the youngest baptized 10 year old members of the great crowd in 1935 who are now in there 80's.. the other sheep of john 10 seems to fit a discription of gentiles.
And to just put the icing onto this crazy-cake, at the very same time (the exact same time) that the "Judge" Rutherford thought this up, they were also teaching that the "men of old in the Bible" were being resurrected and would be living with him in the Beverly Hills mansion.
One might ask - how can you claim to be so irrefutably "right" on the 144,000, great crowd, and "generation" when you were also preaching this closely-related complete quacking nonsense at the very same time?
the recent "generation" explanation redo says that the generation means the anointed living now, and we can still have more anointed, therefore there is no limit on how long the generation can run.
this is an attempt to keep 1914 alive and healthy.. however, the wts still teaches that the great crowd began to be gathered in the 1930's (ex: rutherford had people stand and said "behold, the great multitude) since revelation defines the great crowd as coming out of the great tribulation, doesn't that create a life span problem?
what is going through the minds of even the youngest baptized 10 year old members of the great crowd in 1935 who are now in there 80's.. the other sheep of john 10 seems to fit a discription of gentiles.
It is of course completely illogical. However, given the mental numbness displayed by the rank & file, probably very few even noticed (and probably only near-apostates actually acknowledged or questioned) the change in "generation". The rest probably praised it as new food from Jehovah.
This all stems from fundamental doctrinal falsehoods - one, the literal 144,000 being the only ones to go to heaven; two, the idea that the Christ's rule began in 1914 and that the generation thereof would see the ultimate end.
Just the fact that the remnant of the 144,000 still partaking of the emblems refuses to go down in number shows the insanity of holding on to these idiotic ideas. Not to mention the fact that practically no one actually alive in 1914 and "able to discern the Watchtower ideas about it" is still alive. After all, the news media is now reporting that only ONE WW1 veteran still lives here in the U.S., and that the last survivor of the Titanic shipwreck died last summer in England - and she was a tiny baby on the "night to remember".
i haven't been on here much, including during the recent election.
i am curious if anyone knows what the opinions, official as well as non-official or "gossip" *gasp*, on the election and obama.
i remember as a kid my mother would always complain so much around election time, just like xmas, because she hated it so much.
If we could extend the present balance of left-wing versus right-wing thought here on this board, I would say that there is probably a greater majority of approval for Obama in the current active JW population than there was by vote in the general election. Maybe as much as 65/35.
I remember that when Kennedy was assasinated, there was a great deal of sadness and distress...(and of course that it was a "sign of the end").
When Nixon was elected, there was quite a bit of JW talk on how evil this system of things was and how horrible the government was.
As discussed before, JW members are FAR from having a truly neutral view of government and politics - regardless of what they say.
how about this bizarre story?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32726325/ns/us_news-wonderful_world/?gt1=43001.
75 year old guy has made it a life's work to give blood as much as possible.
You're Dick Cheney's stupider, meaner brother that the family kept hidden; am I right?
Dick Nixon's nazi cousin. I still say that this kind of thing is nothing more than stunt behavior and does not promote the worthy cause of blood donation, because it places this charity on the level of an Evel Knievel motorcycle jump. Sort of like the PETA people who go to such extremes that they vastly reduce their own cause of the protection of animals.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns_9.
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There is enough concerns about 9/11 that the offical findinga are NOT 100% controvery proof, so what is the issue here?
The issue is that the general public does not want a barking-mad conspiracy theorist at the control panel of the government. Did you know that he also stated that "white people and white environmentalists have created poisons and dumped them on the people of color?" That is tantamount to the fatal Rev. Wright comment that "AIDS was made by the government to kill black people".
Fine and dandy to hold these kind of lunatic fetish beliefs, but not if you are going to be a powerful beaurecrat in that very field of endeavor.