Posts by JWoods

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ELDERS CAUGHT IN EMBASSERING SITUATIONS

by badboy in

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know of any cases?.

JWoods

I will give you embarrasing. A very prominent OKLA CITY congregation servant/elder (not my congregation, a neighboring one) finished his day job (house painter) and stopped at the local grocery in Yukon to buy some beer.

It was a warm day, so he drank a few, fell asleep in his car, and was awakened by a local Yukon cop and booked for public intoxication. Never told anybody, but a few of the young guys knew. He had to sweat it out for a couple weeks that nobody saw the blotter that they always posted in the local papers.

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Could WTS Become a Mainstream Religion?

by OnTheWayOut in

i read threads about reform and needed changes.

i don't like the idea.

i personally think that a harmful dangerous mind-control cult should not find some way to moderate slightly to keep their membership.

JWoods

I remember the Time magazine articles right after the Ray Franz episodes.

One prominent religious authority said that they probably would drift toward mainstream out of necessity - (probably happening now just bit by bit) -

but - GET THIS - he said "They will probably have to change their NAME". He cited the "Mormons" who offically became the JCLS. I think his point was that there is so much bad feeling built up over the years by the weird "Jehovah's Witnesses" that it will have to be swept under the rug to create a religion with any legitimate general appeal.

Of course, I doubt that he had any idea of the kind of name fetish that these people have over the precious (and erroneous) "Jehovah".

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A Conversation That Sent Me On a Search ...

by snowbird in

in 2000, my boss, a police lieutenant, was nearing retirement and had very little work to do.. every afternoon, he used to come out of his office and station himself near my workstation for a chat.

there was something about me that seemed to fascinate him.

i think it was my being a jw; he used to ask probing questions about my belief.. one day our conversation centered on sin and judgment.

JWoods

And I am still pretty sure about that threat that the "second death" would be kept around to keep earth people in line after that for all eternity.

Incorrect. That would mean multiple judgement days. As it is there is only one

Oh, I didn't mean that it was either logical or scriptural - I meant that I was almost sure that I either read this in an old watchtower or heard somebody opine it from the platform. As an assurance that for all eternity YHWH would never again let any angel or whateve get out of line like Satan did vis a vis Garden of Eden.

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Arctic Ice to Last Decades Longer Than Thought?

by leavingwt in

national geographic: arctic ice to last decades longer than thought?this year's cooler-than-expected summer means the arctic probably won't experience ice-free summers until 2030 or 2040, scientists say.. .

some models had previously predicted that the arctic could be ice free in summer by as soon as 2013, due to rising temperatures from global warming.. .

however, that scenario required arctic sea ice to shrink at the record-setting pace of summer 2007, when sea ice coverage dropped to 1.6 million square miles (4.13 million square kilometers), said walter meier, a scientist at the u.s. national snow and ice data center in boulder, colorado.. .

JWoods

I would guess good news. Except that I somehow have the feeling that all those pitiful photos of polar bears on diminishing ice are really just polar bears swimming around from one ice pack to another like they always do.

Here is the deal: Nat Geo article says that the melt-out over summer would have been 2013 except that it was very cold this year...so that pushes it back to 2030-2040.

Poster Villabolo proposes that it will be between 10 to 15 years.

Woods says that this indicates to him that we cannot predict this with any degree of certainty.

Sunspot cycle is significant because it signifies weaker solar magnetic field - this makes more cosmic rays, which makes more clouds. More clouds make for overall cooler temperatures.

And nobody really knows what the sun is going to do next either.

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Arctic Ice to Last Decades Longer Than Thought?

by leavingwt in

national geographic: arctic ice to last decades longer than thought?this year's cooler-than-expected summer means the arctic probably won't experience ice-free summers until 2030 or 2040, scientists say.. .

some models had previously predicted that the arctic could be ice free in summer by as soon as 2013, due to rising temperatures from global warming.. .

however, that scenario required arctic sea ice to shrink at the record-setting pace of summer 2007, when sea ice coverage dropped to 1.6 million square miles (4.13 million square kilometers), said walter meier, a scientist at the u.s. national snow and ice data center in boulder, colorado.. .

JWoods

50 years is hardly a full cycle trend in geographical terms.

As an ex-JW I have become very retrospect in making predictions in absense of good scientific evidence.

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A Conversation That Sent Me On a Search ...

by snowbird in

in 2000, my boss, a police lieutenant, was nearing retirement and had very little work to do.. every afternoon, he used to come out of his office and station himself near my workstation for a chat.

there was something about me that seemed to fascinate him.

i think it was my being a jw; he used to ask probing questions about my belief.. one day our conversation centered on sin and judgment.

JWoods

I can hear the "new Hitler" right now: OK, I will get you people organized and fix the new system economy - but this time: NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY!!!

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Elder Disfellowshipped Last Night

by wifeofjw in

so my jw husband tells me last night a elder was disfelloshipped.

totally unexpected by the cong.

well, my hubby was really upset by it.

JWoods

Good GAWD ALMIGHTY - he sat right there and listened to his own DF???

Lord, if he did that, and they still did not consider him repentent - either:

1) this must have been some pretty serious sin (or maybe he got mad during the hearing)

or

2) maybe some other elders hated him with the burning hatred of a thousand suns...

or

3) can you get DFd now just for being the biggest wimp in all the western world?

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A Conversation That Sent Me On a Search ...

by snowbird in

in 2000, my boss, a police lieutenant, was nearing retirement and had very little work to do.. every afternoon, he used to come out of his office and station himself near my workstation for a chat.

there was something about me that seemed to fascinate him.

i think it was my being a jw; he used to ask probing questions about my belief.. one day our conversation centered on sin and judgment.

JWoods

Purps, it is all just a blur now, but wasn't there also something about Satan being let loose one last time at the end of the 1000 years to retest these people?

And I am still pretty sure about that threat that the "second death" would be kept around to keep earth people in line after that for all eternity.

If this is what goes on in the new system during and after the thousand years, it sort of makes one wonder what the hell all this 115 years plus of JW activity was all about??? Everybody seems to go back to square one and get another preaching, teaching, testing and judgement...over and over and over...

BTW - one hilarious note on the "sin eaters": As they were so despised for their necessary but disgusting role - they were completely ostracized by the village and no one would talk to them, not even their family. Where no, I pondered, have I heard this before?

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Wow, the year is 2008, and still no Armageddon!

by Nosferatu in

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friends

every time we enter a new year, i think about how i wasn't supposed to make it this long.

i really believed we wouldn't live past the year 2000, and armageddon would change everything.

it almost strikes me as living on borrowed time, but then i remember that armageddon is a story, not a reality.

JWoods

Here's a plan - lets put this one into beddy-bie, and start a new one thus so:

Re: Wow, the year is 2009, and still no Armageddon!

I am still thinking about a suitable title for a 2010 thread, which is just around the corner - as the Witnesses would say...

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Arctic Ice to Last Decades Longer Than Thought?

by leavingwt in

national geographic: arctic ice to last decades longer than thought?this year's cooler-than-expected summer means the arctic probably won't experience ice-free summers until 2030 or 2040, scientists say.. .

some models had previously predicted that the arctic could be ice free in summer by as soon as 2013, due to rising temperatures from global warming.. .

however, that scenario required arctic sea ice to shrink at the record-setting pace of summer 2007, when sea ice coverage dropped to 1.6 million square miles (4.13 million square kilometers), said walter meier, a scientist at the u.s. national snow and ice data center in boulder, colorado.. .

JWoods

I was going to post again on that thread I made on the book "The Chilling Stars" but kind of lost it after not being able to post for a week or so -

Some DNS was down for a while that lets me get here.

Anyway - good news in a way...and probably will be thoroughly trashed by the Global Warming Activists -

After all, what could National Geographic know on such a subject?