Do they have a Discotech too? This blinking light of theirs would be great for a disco!!!
ItsJustlittleoldme
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to scream or not to scream
by Incense_and_Peppermints injw women have a greater need than jw men to stay ever vigilant and attentive of the watchtower's back and forth rules and regulations which they have the nerve to teach is "new light" from god.
depending on the "new light" from the governing body, if she doesn't scream during a rape, she will be charged by the elders as an adulteress ... someone who may have actually 'enjoyed' the violent act because of her silence.
if another jw woman was raped in 1969 and she didn't scream, she would not be disfellowshipped.
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With Whom Has God Been Patient
by comforter ingod has been patient with evil in the world since the days of adam and eve.
his day is not tarrying but is right on schedule.
god, however, is presently showing patience and self-control, not only with the world of unbelievers but also with the congregation of his faithful witnesses.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
Jehovah's Witnesses know that God is being patient with them today and they are vigorously working on their shortcomings. The Witnesses also do not want any to be annihilated in the coming conflagration called Armageddon. They urge all mankind to read God's word daily and take in accurate knowledge of God and his Son. We love people.
Just for clarity, since Jehovah is waiting on the JW's to work on their shortcomings, what CONCRETE truth do you guys now hold that you didn't hold when the organization was first started under Russell? By CONCRETE, I mean YOU KNOW that you have reached ABSOLUTE truth on a point; for instance ABSOLUTE TRUTH has been reached on the math of 2+2=4.. That is an ABSOLUTE.. No "new light" can be presented on that, since it has been PROVEN true.. So, what ABSOLUTE truth have you reached in your 120+ year history, showing Jehovah that you are indeed working on those shortcomings, and showing progress?
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Looking for recruits!
by The_Bad_Seed in.
i am starting a zine by the name of asleep!, and am looking for mock articles, humor, cartoons, experiences, anything worthy of print looking in on the wts.
no submissions will be taken from naeblis -- he is really a zealous travelling overseer serving yhwh in the pacific northwest!.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
I think that image is permantly burned in my brain!!!!
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
PS:
First, and above all, remember, take care of yourself!!! Your husband is quite correct, you can only be a victim if you let yourself be a victim!!!
Heal youself, and if you keep getting those emails, feel free to post them here (with any personal stuff removed).. I'm sure alot of people here would love to help you write reply emails... !!!!
Good luck, and above all, take care of yourself!!! I'm sure what you are going through is not easy, but many of the people here can help if you let them!!!
Love, and peace be with you,
- me
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
I say- you can't make up your own mind- the organization tells you what to do & say & think , she says "They put YEARS & YEARS of training, translating, scholars, research- and I trust them that they know what is best for me"
PS: Mom, you do realize that these people are just men, and are fallable, correct?
Mom: Yes, of course.. You know that as well as I know that.. They make mistakes, as do all humans.
PS: And you don't mind following these men, even if they do make mistakes?
Mom: They know what is best for me.
PS: So, even though they may make mistakes, and in some instances these mistakes can effect you and your life, you don't mind following them?
Mom: That's right, the men know what is best for me.
PS: Then why does Jesus specifically reproove the Pharisee's in the bible for following the doctrines of men? Can you explain to me why you are not a modern day Pharisee, following the dictates of men, knowing they are flawed, and yet living by their every word?
Mom: Blank stare
(If she contradicts herself at any time, remind her of what she said previously --- gently of course --)
-- Ever played Jeapordy? Your answer must be in the form of a question!
Edited by - itsjustlittleoldme on 6 July 2002 15:8:13
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Is Your Spirituality Being Hindered?
by Sentinel inhello friends,.
i recently visited a very interesting place on the internet, called "the center for unhindered living".
there were various sites to check, and one was of special interest to me, titled "unhindered spirituality".
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ItsJustlittleoldme
A. Truth is static, and that there is only one truth
Subclause 1A: Truth can change, but only our definition of the change is the real truth; Past truth is no longer, we don't know the future truth yet, but when it changes, you'll know it too!
B. That THEIR truth is the only right one
Subclause 1B: Whatever we decide is truth is truth. This changes from minute to minute, however, you gotta keep up with us or you'll lose the TRUTH!
Subclause 1C: And that organized religion is the ONLY religion on earth that is God's organization. No other mere 'mortal' organization will do!C. That you must be part of an organized religion to be pleasing to God
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WTS confirms head covering regulations
by ozziepost inas a service by jehovah's "loving" organisation, the wts has issued a list of situations where sisters are to wear a "head covering".
2. conducting a bible study with baptized son.
1. conducting a family study where husband is not present.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
It's so "heartwarming" to see the way that these rules and regulations are so "lovingly" explained!
Oh, a first hand look at a modern day Pharisee!
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
Hi Jewel:
It's a lost cause and 2. she would be lost without the social structure she has been building-exclusively within this religion-for 30+ years.
Sadly, I do find that we naturally don't spend lots of time together partly because of the preaching-and partly because she can't come to any of the family gatherings I have-kids' birthdays, soup supper on Christmas Day, etc. ad infinitum.
I don't have any wise words for you, but I can tell you that I can honestly say I know how you feel
I respectfully disagree.
1.) Assuming you were at one time "in", and now you are "out" of the organizations sphere of influence and control in your life, how can you say it's a lost cause.. Obviously, you're no longer being controlled by the organization should be reason enough to understand that it is not a lost cause, assuming of course, that when you were under the organization's control, you believed that you had the 'truth'.. Something/someone caused you to think, yet I'd be willing to bet that when you were securely rooted in the truth youself, you would never have even considered that one day you would be "out". It's never a lost cause!
2.) The social structure should not be an excuse to ignore the fact that a person is NOT thinking for themselves, but being led around like Pharisee's. That is NOT pleasing to god, and sometimes doing what is pleasing to god is not easy, but if you really love god, you will do it, and it always works out better in the long run! You obviously are "out" so you have pleased god by no longer being "yoked" to the F&DS. Why would you NOT want to offer that same freedom to others?
* It is NOT natural for parents and children to 'drift apart' at the level you describe above.. You are family, and to state that because of 'preaching' and not being able to goto family gatherings is a good rationalization, but we both know that is NOT the truth.. Truth of the matter is that there are many other times where parents and children naturally interact, and show natural affetion and love towards one another.. Remember the bible scripture (I forget which one) that says basically "Where are your brothers? How can you claim to love me, which you have not seen, when you do not love whom you can see?"
I'm not in any way saying it is easy, nor am I in any way saying it will be quick, but if you truly love someone, you don't walk away from them, and you want to help them for their own good. The WTBTS teaches to walk away from loved ones when they go against the organization (NOTE I did NOT say they walked away from GOD!!!).. I am at a loss to understand anyone that says, "I left the organization and left my loved ones in and have no intention of helping them to think for themselves".. That is the exact same conditonal love (worthless IMHO) as the WT itself teaches.
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I COULDN'T DO IT!!!!
by Perfection Seeker ini know i just posted a few hours ago- but need to vent.
my mom was at the district convention last weekend.
i had found this site shortly before she went.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
Howdy Perfection:
I finally told her that I wanted her to shun me & stay away- if that is what she feels she needs to do- then she said "You obviously want NOTHING to do with me or Jehovah- so is it YOU that wants to shun me?" Man- if I didn't have my ENTIRE family in the organization, it would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy. Sometimes they get you between a rock & a hard place- and you just want to SCREAM!! So, this posting is my SCREAM Guess I'll see her next Saturday at 10:15..................Chocolate, I need chocolate... :-)
Venting is good :-)
Go get the book, "Releasing the bonds, Empowering people to think for themselves" by Steve Hassan
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To Applaud or Throw Up - Which?
by metatron ini pointed out the evidence that the society is sneaking away from.
the blood issue to a 'loyal' relative.. she replied "well, that's good then, right?".
sometimes it just takes your breath away!.
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ItsJustlittleoldme
I know I wasn't the only one that got a "sHERPEDING cALL" in my congo over going to night school at the local Community College!!!!!
And didn't that make you feel 'good' that you were being taken care of like the rest of the sheep <baaaaaa>