Posts by ItsJustlittleoldme

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Don Adams President of WTBTS introduces himeself

by kenpodragon in

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ItsJustlittleoldme

Yeah, I though the same thing..

If the REAL Don Adams found out that the WTBTS new prez is also named Don Adams, he'd probably be horrified that his name is being maligned by the reputation of the cult :-)

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Jehovah use Anti-matter 2 get rid of dead bodies?

by ISP in

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hey i wasn't making this up!.

*** kj 377 20 land of magog no more to threaten mankind ***.

the unburied dead, those slain by jehovah, will be so enormously many that even the carrion birds and scavenging wild beasts could never take care of their consumption.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Hmm, it's true, all I know I learned from Star Trek <LOL>

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Watchtower praises disfellowshipping-Media

by Dogpatch in

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this media video just released by the watchtower to counter what they are doing in disfellowshipping all the whistleblowers is disgusting.

smarmy robert pevy of the writing staff is a total pinhead, and rodney stark is such a joke he makes disfellowshipping out to me a laughing matter!.

http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/311131isdn.htm.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Ahhh,

Another good video to watch :-)

Of course, they are video-taping their answers now (as did JR Brown), because they know that someone who knows the right questions to ask can easily expose them for the beasts they are!

Ooops, I did a bad thing and sent Donahue an ema

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

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i just found out that tonight's episode of donahue is: .

http://www.msnbc.com/news/donahue_front.asp.

friday, july 19.

ItsJustlittleoldme

I just found out that tonight's episode of Donahue is:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/donahue_front.asp

FRIDAY, JULY 19
8:00 P.M. ET - Shoot the messenger?

Father John Bambrick blew the whistle on his fellow priests, and now theyre trying to kick him out. Then, Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, chosen by Bishop Wilton Gregory to head a panel to deal with abusive priests. And, a former seminarian who has spent years trying to put his own abuser behind bars

Now, there is a link on his page that states this:

What would you like to see on Donahue?

Have you noticed a great story or guest that hasnt received enough attention in the news media? Click here to send us your ideas.

I just couldn't resist telling him some stuff that will make his story about the catholics look tame!!!

I did a BAD thing <G>...

Anyone want to join me?

Edited by - itsjustlittleoldme on 19 July 2002 18:44:5

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DANGER!! DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON!!

by Xander in

edited by - xander on 18 july 2002 14:17:39.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Why wasn't Al Gore informed of this? He made the damn thing, he must know of the off switch..!!! <G>

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3 in 1 thing again.

by Bleep in

this is a site promoting a case of 20,000 and counting child molesters.

of course they had to have 3 areas to come up with a good number to start with.

why would this site want too take a number from three areas some may ask.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Hi Bleep,

Once again, just like the Watchtower itself, you present something that is not proven as a forgone conclusion.

Most of these twenty would most likely be inactive publishers or disfellowshiped.

Thus far, unless you are privy to information the rest of us are not, every case of Child Molestation that I've seen involving JW's on the Dateline and BBC programs was an ACTIVE witness.

Please either divuldge your source for this information, or we will have to discount it as propaganda!

What we have seen demonstrates otherwise...

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Quote from JW's response to Panorama

by Dacke in

from jw's letter to betsan powys of panorama (available at www.watchtower.org under "media"),on the policy of jw's handling of child abuse allegations:.

"in addition to making a report to the branch office of jehovah's witnesses, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities.

if so, we expect the elders to comply.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Hey,

While I was researching the law about reporting suspected Child abuse in Kentucky, I found this on their web page RE: Reporting Child Abuse:

Child Protection ActKRS 620 provides for the protection of children through the mandatory reporting of known or suspected child abuse. All states require similar duties of persons related to the reportage of child abuse.

It's at the very top of their web page (http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/gov/domviol/reprting.htm)

Hmm, I wonder if all cases of Suspected Child Abuse in the USA need to be reported, and then legally, if the WT is obstructing justice by not turning over their 'list' ??? This statement sounds pretty cut and dry to me, ALL states REQUIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from JW's response to Panorama

by Dacke in

from jw's letter to betsan powys of panorama (available at www.watchtower.org under "media"),on the policy of jw's handling of child abuse allegations:.

"in addition to making a report to the branch office of jehovah's witnesses, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities.

if so, we expect the elders to comply.

ItsJustlittleoldme

From JW's letter to Betsan Powys of Panorama (available at www.watchtower.org under "media"),on the policy of JW's handling of child abuse allegations:
"In addition to making a report to the branch office of Jehovah's Witnesses, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, we expect the elders to comply. Additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so. In the United States, reporting requirements vary from state to state. It can be quite a challenge to keep abreast of the reporting requirements, but our Legal Department makes every effort to do so."

Hi Dack,

That policy sounds like good lip service to me..

However, if you watch Dateline, you'll see that Bill Bowen has recorded a conversation with Bethel Legal, and I don't here the Legal dept. telling Bill he shoudl report it to the authorities, all I hear them saying to do is ask if the brother did it. If he denies it, Legal suggests that Bill drop the matter, so as not to get into any more trouble!

I didn't hear them say, "You might want to report it to the police for them to investigate".

After all, Bill called legal to get advice on what to do (He followed the procedure outlined above -- call Legal first for advice, so therefor he must have felt there was enough to whatever he was investigating to start the process!!!!!!)...

And, if you check this link on the Kentucky State Government's web site, you'll see clearly that ANYONE suspecting Child Abuse is REQUIRED BY LAW to notify the government!!!

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/gov/domviol/reprting.htm

Here is part of what that page says:

Mandatory Reporting of Child and Spouse Abuse

Child Protection ActKRS 620 provides for the protection of children through the mandatory reporting of known or suspected child abuse. All states require similar duties of persons related to the reportage of child abuse.

Definition of abused or neglected child (KRS 620.020(1)
means a child whose health or welfare is harmed or threatened with harm when his parent, guardian or other person exercising custodial control or supervision of the child:

(1) inflicts or allows to be inflicted upon the child physical or emotional injury by other than accidental means; (2) creates or allows to be created a risk of physical or emotional injury to the child by other than accidental means;
(3) commits or allows to be committed an act of sexual abuse, sexual exploitation, or prostitution upon the child;
(4) creates or allows to be created a risk than an act of sexual abuse, sexual exploitation, or prostitution will be committed upon the child;
(5) abandons or exploits such child;
(6) or does not provide the child with adequate care, supervision, food, clothing, shelter and education or medical care necessary for the child's wellbeing.

Definition of dependent child (KRS 620.020(2)) means any child, other than an abused or neglected child, who is under improper care, custody, control, or guardianship than it not due to an intentional act of the parent, guardian or person exercising custodial control or supervision of the child.

Definition of abuse and exploitation (KRS 620.020(37)) means emotional or physical harm or sexual abuse as defined below:

emotional harm means harm to the mental or psychological capacity or emotional stability of a child as testified to be a qualified mental health professional;

emotional injury means an injury to the mental or psychological capacity or emotional stability or a child as evidenced by a substantial and observable impairment in his or her ability to function within a normal range of performance and behavior with due regard to age development, culture and environment;

physical injury means substantial physical pain or any impairment of physical condition;

sexual abuse includes, but is not limited to any contacts or interactions between a child and an adult in which the parent, guardian or other person having custodial control or supervision of the child or responsibility uses or allows, permits or encourages the use of the child for the purposes of the sexual stimulation of the perpetrator or another person;

sexual exploitation includes involvement of the child in prostitution or acts of obscene or pornographic photographing, filming, or depicting of a child.

Who Shall Report? (KRS 620.030) - Any person who knows or has reasonable cause to believe that a child is dependent, neglected or abused shall immediately cause an oral or written report to be made to a local law enforcement agency or the Kentucky State Police; the Department for Social Services; the Commonwealth's Attorney; or the County Attorney. Unless requested by law enforcement, the Department for Social Services investigates only those cases of abuse or neglect alleged to have been committed by a parent, guardian, or other person in care, custody or control of the child.

Investigation Process (KRS 620.040) -

If the report alleges abuse or neglect of a child, the Department for Social Services shall investigate the matter immediately and shall within 48 hours, exclusive of weekends and holidays, make a written report to the County or Commonwealth Attorney. If the report alleges dependency, the Department for Social Services shall investigate the matter not later than 48 hours after receipt of the report, but need not notify law enforcement or the County or Commonwealth Attorney.

Interference With Reportage (KRS 620.040(2)) - School personnel and other agencies do not have the authority to conduct an internal investigation on lieu of the investigation process outlined above.

Edited by - itsjustlittleoldme on 19 July 2002 8:29:37

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I can't believe this!!!!!!!

by Delite2k in

i am so upset i don't know where to begin!

i met this guy back in dec. at my job, during the first week i started.

(i had a post in the past about my dating him, he's a jw) everything was going cool, except for the fact that: 1) he had a second job as a producer/dj and 2) he didn't have a car, he had to borrow his parents car.

ItsJustlittleoldme

He made many promises to me and since I trusted him, I believed him. He promised that as soon as he gets his own car, we'll get to do more things together. He told me how much he cared for me and the main thing was that he promised that he would not do anything to hurt me. Sometime in May, he finally got his own car. At one time all he could talk about (besides his love for music) was getting a car. And I was so happy for him, hell I was excited. He took me to the dealership to show me which one he was getting and everything. All of the sudden after about a week. He tells me that we should be "just friends", because now he has a ride, he's going to be in the studio more and take on more DJ gigs. So he's not gonna have time for me. Oh but he does tell me that its not that he dosen't want to be with me, cause he do, or that he dosen't care for me cause he do, its just he's going to be busy.

I'm very sorry to hear this.. However, if you understand the JW mindset, this is very explainable (IMHO)...

A.) He really did like you, and he is trying to have you walk away from him.. So, what he does is do everything he can so that he can see that the love you said you had for him is conditional on his accepting you...

B.) By you being upset, and crying, you are proving to him that indeed he was right..

I know it's tough, but if you really want to show him love, go up to him the next time you see him and tell him that you love him uncondionally, no matter how badly he treats you, you will always be there for him. Then tell him how you wished he could understand real love, and then walk away!

He is trying to make you a victim, a victim of the Watchtower, in hopes that later on you will be receptive to their 'message' of conditional love, unquestioning loyalty to the men that run their religion, etc. etc. etc....

I know it hurts, I know that you feel used, but Jesus would turn the other cheek, and say, I love you regardless of how you treat me!

And, guess what, after you do this, you won't feel like a victim any longer!!!!! You have shown him the better love, and trust me, it will bother him!!!

He may never show it to you (although I suspect he will in some way), but trust me, it will bother him... He is under the control of a cult, and he doesn't know what he is doing (He does, but he honestly thinks he is doing the best he can to save you -- in his own mixed up way, he believes he is showing you love)... But, by showing him real love, you will be helping him to take the first step(s) into beginning to realize something is wrong!!!!

The witnesses believe that NO-ONE but them can understand love.. By showing him real love, you not only show him that they are wrong, but you also show him that his love is alot less powerful than your love.. His "love" is based on acceptance and obiedience.. All the relationships in his life are based on the "love" he has for the organization, and how much "work" he does to prove that he is a good Jehovah's Witness... If he were to ever even question the organization, that love would be withdrawn, even by his own parents..

If you show that even if he withdraws his love and affection from you, you still love him and will be there for him no matter what he does, that will bother him, as he will feel what 'real love' is, but yet to him, that kind of love doesn't exist..

You may lose him anyway (In fact, I believe you will -- sorry) but if you really love him and want to help him later on in life, go to him and tell him that you are always there for him, and YOU LOVE HIM AND WILL ALWAYS HELP HIM NO MATTER HOW BADLY HE TREATS YOU!

It will help him in the long run, and it will empower you, and make you feel like less of a victim!!!

Edited by - itsjustlittleoldme on 18 July 2002 23:0:53

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Children of God know what to do.

by Bleep in

jehovahs people pay the authorities taxes.

they do not go to war but the churches unite with the military.

its too bad those bishops can not control the men that have a vow of celebacy.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Hi Bleep,

Oh i forgot this should be about the witnesses (locusts of the earth).

I don't believe that is true at all, I don't consider JW's locusts of the earth.. I genuinly feel very sorry, and have pity for them...

As for the rest of your statement, I have no problem discussing the catholic church either...

Jehovahs people pay the authorities taxes.

A.) So do Catholics.

They do not go to war but the churches unite with the military.

B.) You got that one, I disagree with the Catholics and other christian religions on this one as well.. I agree with the WT on this one!

Its too bad those bishops can not control the men that have a vow of celebacy. They should be able to marry the nuns.

C.) Yeah, I believe that they should be allowed to marry as well. Of course, your statement is hypocritical, because the witnesses are having a problem controlling their 'flock' as well, and although celibacy isn't the issue, paedophilia is..

One part of your statements that I completely disagree with as you have yet to be prove your claim -- Where is the proof that the JW's are Jehovah's People? In fact, if you claim they are his people, why is HE having a hard time controlling HIS people, and ALLOWING his people to commit Paedophilia? At least the Catholics, who according to your claim, are not chosen by god, and are mere men who are having problems.. Why is JEHOVAH having similiar problems with his 'claimed' chosen people? I don't understand why JEHOVAH would allow his people to be giving him such a bad name?

Edited by - itsjustlittleoldme on 18 July 2002 19:24:55