Posts by inbetween

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British museum bible tours

by inbetween in

visiting london years ago i had the chance to participate on a bible tour arranged from bethel.

what i remember, it was one out of 12 topics, and a brother or sister served as a guide, showing particular objects related to bible accounts.. at that time, i was quite enthusiastic about it, thinking i learned something valuable.. .

now, being awake to ttatt, i wonder what real scientific value those tours served.. or rather it raises the suspicion, that those tours are for visiting witnesses in order to distract them from many other finds in the museum, that would disprove either the bible or their own theology.. anybody ever made such a tour ?.

inbetween

Visiting London years ago I had the chance to participate on a bible tour arranged from Bethel. What I remember, it was one out of 12 topics, and a brother or sister served as a guide, showing particular objects related to bible accounts.

At that time, I was quite enthusiastic about it, thinking I learned something valuable.

Now, being awake to TTATT, I wonder what real scientific value those tours served.

Or rather it raises the suspicion, that those tours are for visiting witnesses in order to distract them from many other finds in the Museum, that would disprove either the bible or their own theology.

Anybody ever made such a tour ?

35

We Pray For The Governing Body...

by jw07 in

at the meetings i've noticed over the past 2 years or so brothers asking for 'special blessings' for the governing body.

it was everyonce in a while at first.

now it is almost at every single meeting!

inbetween

yes, definately more mention of GB or FDS, no wonder, it was encouraged a lot lately...

38

Atheism and Theism are only partly right!

by abiather in

today we know that matter and energy are interchangeable, hence they are there always in either form, they are eternal, hence requires no creator.

hence atheism is right in rejecting a creator, but failed in providing any motivation for people to do good.

religions, in their effort to provide a motivating factor for humans to do good, introduced creation stories and other myths; hence they too are right (as far as their intention is concerned), yet failed in producing any worthy resultsworld was steadily moving from bad to worse and from worse to worst!.

inbetween

"All atheism is is a lack of belief in deities due to a lack of evidence, NOTHING else."

once i realized this, I started to tend towards Atheism.

even though i think, I´ll never find out the whole truth, who knows really...

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After Tony's Talk: how are GB members selected and by who?

by Gorbatchov in

after the shamefull tony morris iii talk in italy, i am thinking about how it is possible that a multi billion corporation is managed by 8 old crazy man?.

who's selecting new gb members?

is it enough to be a extreme manager-elder, then getting promotion to a manager-co / do, put the organization strictly first and on who's radar you have to be?.

inbetween

In last sundays WT they explained, atht the appointment of elders by holy spirit happens, because a brother must fulfil the requirements outlined in the inspired word of God.

So were are the requirements for GB members in the scriptures ? If they are not there (obviously, since even a GB is not mentioned), this means, that the appointment must happen directly, like God or Jesus speaks to them or writes them an email (yes jehovahs chariot is moving in line with newest technology).

I beleive, with an answer to this question the whole thing stands or falls....

33

Morris in Italy

by Achille in

morris in italy, january 5, 2014. http://forum.infotdgeova.it/viewtopic.php?p=281371#p281371.

inbetween

was this talk recorded ?

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Noah - the Movie

by Simon Morley in

went to the movie theatre over the weekend to take in jack ryan (not bad) and saw the trailer for "noah" (russell crowe and a solid cast) whats the bet the dubs will be given a rule encouraged to examine their own consciences when attending this movie.

from what i hear its fairly true to the genesis account, but hey its hollywood with cgi at their disposal.. .

my guess is they will not be allowed to go until the gb 2.0 attend a screening at loews cineplex, grab some popcorn and pop and give it their blessing..

inbetween

"I`m pleased to see that Noah was an Australian , you pack of heathens . We are saved, your doomed .

smiddy"

so here is the answer, he brought the koala bears personally to Australia...

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Why would Adam or Eve choose the tree of knowledge instead of the tree of life.

by smiddy in

please help me out here .. in genesis 2:16 it says " and jehovah god also laid this command upon the man: from every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.

17 but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it , for in the day you eat from it ,you will positively die.. ok we get that , but what about this ?.

wouldnt it make more sense to forbid the eating of the tree of life first ?

inbetween

to the OP:

I always wondered that myself, and one time a quite knowledgable return visit brought the idea, that it was part of Gods concept, that they regularly had to eat from the tree of life, otherwise they would die.

This kind of made sense, so I checked the library, and found an article (QFR I guess), which refuted the idea, without really giving a good reason.

Back then, still fully in, it puzzled me though, and I put it, as many other problems, just in the back of my mind.

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Does anyone know the curent understanding on Chess for JWs?

by BU2B in

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i seem to remember chess was frowned upon by some jws.

is this like the oral/anal sex policy?

just ignore it and hope it goes away...

inbetween

chess was never an issue, I learned about the AWake article of 73 here on the forum...

what was a bit questioned was risk, but even that, lots of JW played it in the early 90`s

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Do you think that the WT has gotten stranger as time goes by or is it that with distance comes perspective?

by 4thgen in

the preaching the jw.org thing is so strange.

the two generations "new light" is crazy.

but then again i look back at some of the things i believed and taught wonder 'what was i thinking'?

inbetween

How true, less crazy but annoying frequent demand of obedience, more rules and regulations...

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The new light changes from the draw close to Jehovah printed form vs online form.

by EndofMysteries in

the changes are in paragraph 7 and 8 in the first chapter of draw close to jehovah book, and i fail to see any doctrine change, only the gb trying to cover up possible mistakes they've made and potential embarrassment of worldly sources knowing what jehovah's name means while they were wrong.

let's examine this new light they quote with this letter.

let's see a word for word comparison on what many will be talking about in meetings about the wonderful new light and evidence that they are the faithful slave...... .

inbetween

interesting thought on Exodus 6:3, the WTS could never admit, that it means what it actually says, because that would mean, for a long period of time until Moses, which is 2500 years, for true worship knowing Gods name was not necessary...