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  What is the J.W. position on video games?

  by outlander in

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  want to study with me last winter.

  he came into my house and while walking around looking at things he noticed my shelved collection of video games, some going back 15 years, but most old playstation rpg and racing games, a few ps2 rpg'd mixed in.

  the usual stuff, final fantasy and such.

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  There is one kind of entertainment I really do like: a good video game.

  Even long before I knew the truth about the truth, I liked to play video games, despite the negative undertone that is present in talks or articles of the society about this genre.

  Of course, they never outright say, playing video games is wrong, but they almost always put them in bad light.

  Mostly for violence or spiritistic content, and even if this does not apply, it is a kind of entertainment that can cause addictions and steal lots of time.

  Its their kind of controlling, only highlight the negative aspects of some thing.

  Admittedly, there are problems with people getting addicted, there are games, which are really gross and overly brutal, especially for children they can steal too much time. But the same is true with everything else.

  I usually applied my own conscience, but did not make a big deal to others about it.

  And there is a big difference between using violence in a video game and using violence in real life. So all this talk about violence in entertainment is the biggest hypocrisy, when they encouraged not too long ago even officially the use of force (violence) in rearing your children.
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  Do not circulate recordings or transcripts of talks at the meetings last night.

  by life is to short in

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  2. friends

  ok i listening in for the meetings and will probably go to the special talk sunday, they are having it this week because of the special assembly day last weekend.. i am doing this for a very good reason but it is driving me crazy listening to this stuff.

  i need to vent of else i feel i will go crazy.

  it is so stupid.. ok so last night was the question box and it was about recording the public talks.

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  its funny same kind of comments here too. A brother, normally a really smart guy, said, that Jehovahs org is moving, what was 10 years ago changed. We should not listen, because information might be wrong now.

  hm, truth changes ? didnt know that....

  Also funny, some years ago, I received a recorder talk from a GB member directly from our CO.

  Wonder what he really thought of this article...
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  "Spiritual conversation"? What is that?

  by teel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you surely remember that there were numerous exhortations to talk about spiritual things, especially in kh.

  i never quite understood what that's supposed to mean.

  (which is probably why i talked so little in the kh i guess).

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  it made me think, because usually in the KH you talk about norma stuff, work, holiday etc, and I always felt a bit guilty, since it was not spirtual... however, what great can you talk especially after midweek meeting, where you learn for the 182nd time, how to offer the magazines or to invite people to the org etc....

  The only spirtual discussion I really had was when I asked or discussed deeper questions, (with some in our hall you can do that) but in the end, that easily led to questioning things, the society teaches...so sad, we have some great minds, the WTs restricts them and dumbs down any real spirituality...
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  Are the elders appointed by Jehovah?

  by asilentone in

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  2. bible

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  no, no holy spirit directly involved, the only argument would be the qualifications in the bible...

  have to say, in our congo, the BOE is pretty much ok, most really care for the brothers, of course following BORG-rules without questioning, but thats really not their fault, but I have been in ohter congos too, were the BOE were horrible, powerdriven, or completely desinterested in any real shperding...
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  Does the new Catholic scandal help or hurt in exposing the WT abuse scandals?

  by undercover in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the attention being paid to new allegations of abuse cover-up in the catholic church i wonder:.

  1. does this take the heat off the wts and are they hoping to slide through less scrutinized while the pope gets skewered by the media?

  will the wts be stupid enough to try to capitalize on the catholics problems by printing articles critical of them?.

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  some witnesses here go crazy about it, how bad the RC is, and so on...

  Whenever possible, I try to tell them not to point the finger, things like that happen with JW too....I usually get a big surprised look...
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  Signing Publisher Record Cards

  by IMHO in

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  2. friends

  i know this doesn't apply to all countries.. however, is it a 'requirement'?.

  is it enforced?.

  is it optional?.

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  inbetween

  good question IMHO,

  I think, they cannot trouble a piblisher much, but if there is any privilege it might be taken away, because of not "humbly submitting to theocratic order" or something like that.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-07-10 WT Study (DEDICATE JAH)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  he will even restore his loyal ones to their youth so that they can benefit from his care.

  more happiness than dedication ourselves to anything or one else--even a spirit-directed organization?.

  about making the choice to belong to jehovah.. comments.

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  anybody noticed the pictures ?

  the guy supposed to be a bible study, was shown with a full beard, and then, to illustrate his changes from wordly to godly, he became clean shaven....

  even in times when I was full 'in', I never undertsood the stance on beards...so now it bugs me even more...
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  prayer before eating

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mentioned to an elder/friend the other day that it occurred to me that there really doesan't seem to be any scriptural precedent or mandate for the tradition of praying before we eat.

  i said that jesus blessed the loaves and fishes when he performed that miracle, and he blessed the wine and bread at the last supper, but i couldn't think of any other example of it.

  i also suggested that the tradition of praying before eating was probably rooted in giving thanks to the various gods of nature and the perception og god as being involved in the outcome of the harvest, and that, by that way of looking at it, we probably shouldn't pray before eating....silence..

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  hm, at home in the family, I think it has its value, reminds you to be thankful in general, which is not a bad thing...

  however, i hate it in public, always did the same as cantleave did (and hoped nobody else around notices)
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  Do you hold any ''responsibility'' for the believing the WTS?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses are the only people that will inherit life on paradise earth.

  only jehovah's witnesses have the ''truth''.

  the wts is the only ''channel' 'to jehovah.

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  thats one of the most nagging questions, why did I not see this earlier ?

  Why did it take so long to see through this scam ?

  Why did I defend the oddest teachings with far-fetched reasonings ?

  My reply: hardly if ever, were we able to see the other side, anything apostate was demonized, and the usual house-holder we meet, has mostly only little knowledge of JW, or even the bible.

  its all about control of information, the WTS feeds you only what fits their agenda, and make it appear "bible-based" so anything that contradicts them contradicts automatically Gods word.

  only when their information control got too tight, (example km 2007, about not studying the bible in Greek, or the newer and more extrem approach to higher education) my personal red flag got up.

  I started first to think for myself, and not to agree with certain teachings...then I ignored the warning about apostates, and came finally to this site...

  If they slowly opnened up, a process imho that began in the nineties, maybe I still would be fully in, but they choose the other road, and therefore caused me (and others) to see through....

  regarding responsibility ? well, Jesus forgave those who tortured him, because they did not know what they are doing, while he strongly rebuked those who knew, like the Pharisees, priests etc...

  at least, thats what I hope for...
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  Does anyone here ever feel that they don't fit in

  by cantleave in

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  2. friends

  you no longer fit in with the jw's and aren't yet accepted by those outside either?.

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  inbetween

  exactly know what you mean, to a point at least.

  I observe some people at work or in neighborhood, end even though most of them are just decent normal people, sometimes their perceived purpose in life seems too shallow,

  let me explain: even when you realize the WTS is a big fraud, it gave life a "spiritual" dimension, shielding from a mere materialistic view of life, which is not completely satisfying.

  (however this may often just be from the perspective of a JW, when you barley get the chance to really get to know people outsied of the "truth")

  additionally when you live as an outsider for decades, it is hard to change in a short time to be fully integrated in society.

  on the other hand, when you are with witnesses, even if many are close friends, when they start talking cultish, it seems weird for those of the "conscious class", and you may feel as not fitting in either.

  Funny, i realise that I was never so full of this stuff, like prasing Jah for every positive thing that occurs in your life and blaming the devil for anything negative. Now it even strikes me more odd than before when I hear stuff like that.

  Yep, I completely understand this feeling....