Interesting thought I think that is in the Jan or Feb Watchtower 2010 Question from Readers on baptism. It stated that if a person was practicing a wrong before they were baptized and did not discontinue it during and after baptism, then their baptism is invalid. They cannot be df because of the continuing to pracitice a serious wrong before baptism. Of course apostasy would be a difficult point to slide by because of the questions the elders give before baptism.
straightshooter
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I have a question that I need your help with.
by Pallbearer inhi folks,.
i have a real serious question that i hope you will be able to help me with.. in the 4-1-1986 watchtower, pages 30-31 it talks about "approved association".
what i'm seeking your opinion about is this: if a baptized jw is deemed to not be an 'approved associate' at some point (due to his having developed a divergent view regarding one or more of the watchtower's unique teachings) does his 'not being an approved associate' mean that the watchtower society no longer considers him to be a jw?
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Understanding who, what, or how...when a elder, oc, or ms is appointed
by Butterflyleia85 ini thought this page was interesting when they decussed developing church leaders.... http://www.foundationsforfreedom.net/references/nt/pauline/titus/titus1/titus1_5_leadership.html.
can someone share scriptures or insite along the idea that.
even though an organization was always necessary god only used the organization, it was not an itegral part of his plan.
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straightshooter
In principle the qualifications as listed in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9 govern who should qualify as an elder or ms. But in actual practice, elders in the local cong decide who should be elders and ms based on personal likes and dislikes. After all, most every mature male member in the cong should be meeting those qualifications. Yet they may not be a servant in the cong because they are not in the proper circle of elder friends.
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Then What?
by tjlibre inafter knowing what i now know about the wt and the gb.
now that i can see the real spirit behind this organization, now that i have convinced my self that i dont need this religion or any other organized group to have a personal relationship with god and his son... i wonder, whats next?
should i stay as part of the conscious class, a less committed jw for the sake of my marriage and emotional stability?
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straightshooter
You know your family and spouse better than us and you know what you can take from the BORG. As for me, sitting in front of the TV vs at the meetings was a toss up. Hence I will go with my spouse to the Memorial and some of the assemblies. But not going in the field ministry is a real blessing. After all, it is extremely hard to tell others about the JW message and not believe it for oneself.
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So after a month on here...I would like JW lurkers to read as well.
by Aussie Oz ini learn: the watchtower society's first president was not ct russell, that he was into pyramids, that rutherford hijacked his little religion and turned it into a powerhouse for publishing, that he liked sly grog, had 2 cadillacs to al capones 1, was a bully, and had cancer of the bum, that over all the years they can't make up their mind between new and old light, that the governing body dont even consult the bible, that they had at least one gay g/b member, manipulate prophecy, set dates and blame the flock, invented disfellowshipping just after critizing the catholics for excomunication, avoid taxes, lie on the stand, joined the u.n, own billions of dollars worth of ny, trade stocks and shares, tried be friends with hitler, condoned bribery in mexico, let the flock think they were resticted by the mexican govt, let mallawians die for nothing, keep watering down the blood policy, whitwash their own history, have secret books to help child custody battles, hides criminals, runs heretic witch hunts, spys, has two watchtower mags, supported swaggert in court, lies, controls minds, protects pedophiles, punishes victims, tears families apart, is anti education, is practically run by lawyers, has more corporations than wallstreet it seems, promote wt lit as part of the bible, supported racial segregation in the south, policed the bedroom, that the bible and preaching work are a front for a massive, giant megalomaniacal malevolent publishing house.
that none of this is unsupported lies!.
and to think that a month or so ago, i thought the only dirt on them might have been being a little to harsh on shunning.. i feel sick.
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straightshooter
Good points. Amazing how the JW never mention any of these things in their witnessing work. Or course many of the JW don't even know of these things.
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Facebook condemned
by straightshooter inmy wife told me that at the last meeting, the elders announced that youngsters going to the skateboarding park were no longer to have any privileges in the congregation.
this is to prevent jw youngs to be rounded up if a drug raid was made at the skateboarding park.. also because of individuals requesting that they be friends on facebook that contain bad pictures, that anyone with a facebook account will automatically have their privileges removed.. sounds like the pharasees protecting the people by adding additional traditions upon them.. .
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straightshooter
My wife told me that at the last meeting, the elders announced that youngsters going to the skateboarding park were no longer to have any privileges in the congregation. This is to prevent jw youngs to be rounded up if a drug raid was made at the skateboarding park.
Also because of individuals requesting that they be friends on Facebook that contain bad pictures, that anyone with a Facebook account will automatically have their privileges removed.
Sounds like the Pharasees protecting the people by adding additional traditions upon them.
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Merry Xmas to all
by Japster ina merry christmas and a very happy new year.
it is cool and sunny up here in vancouver, canada 4 to 6 c [f?
sorry i forget farenheit].
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straightshooter
May your holidays be blessed and you all enjoy your families during festive time.
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Metallica - Your all time favorite song from them U-Tubes Welcome
by AdaMakawee inenough with this sissy music!
any bangers out there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgigrxpohyg.
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straightshooter
Went to see them in San Jose about a week or so ago. It was so AWESOME!
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Pardon Me, but I Hate My Husband.
by compound complex ininspired by the poisonwood bible, my life as a watch tower missionary and tales of truthful jehovah's witness wives:.
i pray god will forgive me.
i hate my husband.. once i was crazy about nathan.
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straightshooter
Some love to proclaim bad news thinking that this will reach hearts. But it is the "good news" of a compassion and love that is really good. Hopefully Nathan never becomes a ministerial servant or elder because it only gets worse.
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Wahoo...My fiance brought the Treadmill in the house...
by Butterflyleia85 ini am so excited.
i lived in this new house for 3 months and finally my fiance brought in my teadmill from the garage!
he even was injured in the process.
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straightshooter
Good luck on your excercise program. For me it was easy to begin the training program but after a month then it disappears. Then the equipment got moved back to the garage. So hopefully you will have more success.
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I'm starting to tell on my husband
by tiffy0212 inyesterday a brother called the house and asked for my husband.
i told him i'm sorry he is doing his study and i will not call him to the phone.
i told him we do not talk to each other and he would have to call him back around 11:30. he called back around 11:40 and sure sounded different then his first call.
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straightshooter
It is sad how the jws handle matters such as this. Just like how they protect child abusers, they protect wife abusers the same way.