Posts by Atomahawk

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It's Amazing!

by whathehadas in

it's amazing to me how many of the exjws no longer believe in god.

i know some of you have many reasons to believe in what you do now.

but this is a big testimony to what the wts does to people's concept of god.

Atomahawk

"I had two seperate ministers at completely different times tell me they believed the jw's & Mormons produce more athiests than anybody in the world."

This wouldn't surprise me, prior to becoming a JW I did believe in an almighty god and turned to him often at different times in my life. Like many in this world I was seeking answers and the religion I was born in (Roman Catholic)was full of hypocrites, liars, stealers, abusers etc. So I abviosly wouldn't turn to them. The JW's seemed to have the answers and most responses seemed logical and well thought out. These people that became friends were sincere, kind, honest etc. When my eyes finally opened 10 years later and you realize the real truth, you turn away from god. Why? Logic. Heres mine, we have a very short life, we ask god to help in finding the truth (sincere) then you realize the truth turns out to be a sham, the logical outcome is there is no god. I certainly don't have time to study every religion on the planet, christanity has over 30K different religions or church's, Then we have islam, hinduism etc. that's a lot of god.

If god can't be bothered to show mankind his/hers/its true colors so to speak then why should anyone seek out god? If gods logic is "seek me out" then I say "prove to me that your worth the time and effort then we can talk"

'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'

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It's Amazing!

by whathehadas in

it's amazing to me how many of the exjws no longer believe in god.

i know some of you have many reasons to believe in what you do now.

but this is a big testimony to what the wts does to people's concept of god.

Atomahawk

I'm of the opinion that religion and the belief in god/s was the easiest solution for mankind to answer the questions that has always haunted us. Where do we come from? What happens when we die? And the myriads of other questions related to the human condition. It's our nature to question and was totally unavoidable considering our uniqueness on the planet. The reason I believe many eventually leave their religions and even turn away from the belief in an almighty god/s after being fervent believers is simply a matter of lack of answers to even the simplest of questions. This is the one that did it for me, "Do's god exist?" One would think that if he/she/it actually exists and it was important to actually know this it would be known and unquestionable. Let's face facts it could have been easily hardwired into our brain. If your a man do ask yourself "am I a man?" If your a woman do you need to ask the question? Why do we need to question if god exists? If an almighty exists logic tells me that he/she/it would want this fact to be known, not debated. I won't delve into the other questions that mankind has pondered as we could spend multiple lifetimes discussing them.

If god doesn't exist mankind has the moral obligation to shed itself of it's primeval believes if we are to expand and improve as a species.

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Most people say they do not want to live forever.

by John Doe in

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if this is your wish, what age do you not wish to live past?.

Atomahawk

As long as as I can get HARD (even with a blue pill) it's all good. When it stops working I know my desire to live will slowly fade from that point on.

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Scientists Create Human Sperm from Stem Cells

by betterdaze in

scientists create human sperm from stem cellsby alice parktuesday, jul.

07, 2009a colony of human embryonic stem cells is seen on a computer monitor at the university wisconsin-madisondarren hauck / getty.

researchers at newcastle university in england report they have coaxed the first human sperm cells from embryonic stem cells, in a remarkable demonstration of how quickly the field of stem cell science is moving.. .

Atomahawk

The financial backers of this kind of researching are simply trying to strengthen their power and control over mankind. The common man and poor will never be allowed the benefits that may be derived from it. The power over life and death is the next step to becoming gods and they know this all to well.

My conspiracy of the day.

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When will there be a major expose' of the WTBTS on W-5, CNN or?

by Japster in

i have to wonder why there has been no major new reporting source that has taken it upon themselves to do a big expose' on the borg?

i know that there have been some great things on pedophelia and blood transfusions but what about a one hour special on all the problems this destructive sect has caused in millions of peoples lives all over the earth?.

am i missing something.. thanks.

Atomahawk

They don't talk about things that have little or no global impact unless it's a slow news day.

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Why I can see no reason to believe in Christianity

by free2beme in

those of us on this board, who live in the united states, know this country has a lot of christian history attached to it's founders and current political state of things.

if i look in the yellow pages, under christianity, in the church section and browse the listed selection; i will quickly notice that the large majority of options are christian based in one way or another.

with this said, more then likely you are working with christians, living next door to them or related to them in your life.

Atomahawk

Those that profess that Christianity is the cure all and end all for mankind salvation are deluding themselves and the same can be said about every other religion on this planet. Religion has been used as a control mechanism by some very smart humans as a tool to control events and mankind. Governments love religion even though most will not admit this fact. It has kept those that are sheep happy, hoping, wishful etc. all of these little things that control and reduce a large portion of humanity into un ambitious and un questioning drones.

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What good was Field Service?

by BurnTheShips in

it seems like a massive waste of time.. how many people would successfully convert to the witnesses from field circus?

it was pretty much a waste of time in spanish language the last several years, and yet english language bros would join the spanish congos because they thought it was so much more productive!.

bts.

Atomahawk

I was a pioneer for 7 years, when I think back it was a complete waste of time spiritually and financially. I would have been a lot better off using my time in more productive way than trying to prove my worth to the so called almighty. Sure I became an MS faster and was well on my way to becoming an elder, but that only used more time, time I could have used to actually contribute something positive to my own life or someone that I knew deserved it.

I pity anyone that wastes their time trying to convince others to join any religious organization. Let god use his own time and effort if it’s so important, which of course we all know he won’t do because he has billions of humans that practice thousands of religions to do the work for him. I will probably never see the day that mankind will break the religious cycle and finally come to it’s senses but I’m convinced that it will happen and when it does it will be a huge step forward in mankind’s intellectual evolution.

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EVERYBODY! IS THERE GOOD LIES?

by whathehadas in

we know that jehovah/yahweh cannot lie, and that he hates a lie(pr 6:16-19).

but according to his word, it is okay to do it pertaining to his purposes.

of abraham, isaac, rahab, and elisha(gen 12:10-19,26:1-10,jos 2:1-6,jas 2:25,2 ki 6:11-23).

Atomahawk

Here’s what I would consider a good lie, it’s only my opinion so take it at face value.

If I was asked to lie for someone that made a mistake and they would suffer serious consequences in their life if I told the truth, I wouldn’t hesitate to lie for them.

Example someone that messed up at work, that would lose their job over the issue.

If I had to lie to feed or protect myself or another person I was responsible for I wouldn’t hesitate being untruthful. It’s called survival and I wouldn’t leave that to chance or a god.

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Paleontologists Brought to Tears, Laughter by Creation Museum

by leavingwt in

paleontologists brought to tears, laughter by creation museumthe museum argues that the fossil record has been misinterpreted and that tyrannosaurus rex was a vegetarian before adam and eve bit into that sin-inducing apple.. jardine, a palaeobiologist graduate student from the university of birmingham, was having fun on the tour, but told a reporter that he was disturbed by the museum's cartoonish portrayal of scientists and teachers.. "i feel very sorry for teachers when the children who come here start guessing if what they're being taught is wrong," jardine said.. arnie miller, a palentologist at the university of cincinnati who was chairman of the convention, said he hoped the tour would introduce the scientists to "the lay of the land" and show them firsthand what's being put forth in a place that has elicited vehement criticism from the scientific community.. http://www.physorg.com/news165555744.html.

paleontology and creationism meet but dont mesh .

but here in the creation museum in northern kentucky, earth and the universe are just over 6,000 years old, created in six days by god.

Atomahawk

My opinion:

Mankind’s understanding of the universe is based solely on it’s very limited experience living in it. Everything we think we know, understand, and what we believe to be true can drastically change at any point in what we call time. The big bang theory is a theory not fact and it’s based on our perception and understanding of the mechanics of the universe as we know it. Humans need to believe everything has a starting point and an end point it’s what we know and understand at the moment. There could be myriads of other possibilities of how the universe started and where it’s going, and it’s very possible that we will never understand or even grasp the truth even if it was right in front of us.

The same can be said about the concept of a god or gods as the source of all things. Many trust in his/her/it’s existence as the only possibility that answers all their questions, hopes, dreams and desires and is considered fact for them. Our imagination and creativity could have been the source that fueled and encouraged mankind to explain the unexplainable through a god. The fact of the matter is no one today can prove the existence of such an entity. If he/she/it exist it’s their choice to make themselves manifest or not. I’m not talking about signs, prophets interpretation of literature etc. That’s already been done to death and has not proved existence

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Where does one draw the line on whether the origins of a practice make it acceptable?

by insearchoftruth in

ok, am very confused:.

honeymoons and wedding rings, based in paganism, ok for a jw to do.. windchimes, once prohibited due to the intent to ward off evil spirits, ok for a jw to have.. pinatas, once prohibited due to origin, now since folks do not associate the fun with a pinata, ok for a jw to do.. wedding anniversaries, not sure if they are formally addressed in the bible, ok for a jw to do.. birthdays, two bad examples in the bible plus some stories how originally celebrated by the wealthy (choose to ignore job 1 - job 3 when a persons special day is celebrated), not ok for a jw to do (have not been at a birthday party ever where someone was beheaded).

thanksgiving, actually a basis in the old testament for a celebration of the harvest, not ok for jws to do.

Atomahawk

"you are on the money. The elders are considered, as one CO once put it, 'the fathers of the cong'....they may make rules and enforce them so long as they do not violate WT mandates...."
And this is a major problem within the organization, depending on the congregation the elders are the ones that often decide on matters of conscience based on their own likes, dislikes, conservative, liberal etc etc etc.
I was of the personal belief that any subject that wasn’t explicitly condemned in the scripture was a matter of opinion or interpretation which can be debated, but that’s as far as it could go. Of course what came from the GB was not open for discussion.
I have heard of many being shunned privately based on the personal standards of the congregation elders or CO which was very unfortunate as many innocent and well meaning persons never moved forward if they stuck to there opinions. Each congregation is molded and very manipulated by the elders or CO that preside over it. I gave a lot of talks in different congregations and could tell what kind of elders ran the place, just by how they dressed, spoke, sincere friendliness, etc. Some of those congregations were so uptight, I would have killed myself if I had to actually spend longer than a few hours their.
I’m glad I left before I ever became an elder, my NOOB (None of our Business) approach would have certainly got me into trouble eventually. LOL