from what do you draw your self esteem, confidence, feelings of self worth etc.?.
over the years, i've drawn mine from being a good jw .
dana
Dana, thanks so much for your comments, and for posting this thread!
In various ways, we've all been through the same thing, and I feel that by in effect being programmed, like Imbue wrote, to be so self-critical, we can easily end up being abused in various ways.
ok guys and dolls, american football will start in a couple months, so who is the team you pull for?.
ok i know i will get shit for this but go cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the dallas cowboys
Crazy151, I have to agree, the whole Joe Montana departure thing was a big disappointment. I've stuck with the Niners anyway, but the years since then have never been quite the same. In fact, when the Niners won the Super Bowl in 1995, I was not nearly as thrilled as when they did it with Joe four times in the 1980s.
By the way, I live nowhere near SF so I have no idea about tickets, lol. I live on the East Coast.
did the 1914 generation die anyway?
ver since the beginning of the watchtower movement, they have had some sort of deadline for god's activities.these activities could be the rapture of the saints (which jws today do not believe in), the destruction of "false religion", ie every other religious group, or the final end of this world.
earlier, these deadlines were explicit dates.
Jan, well researched post.......
Many, many jws have reacted to all this in another way, in my opinion - meeting attendance has dropped off, and many are seeking better education and now are partcipating in activities like extracurricular sports. I think many of them have realized that putting their lives on hold in expectation of the end of this system of things is too much to ask for, and some are at least trying to do some things and pursue some ooportunties that life affords. They don't come out and say it, but I believe, from what I have observed, that this is indeed the case.
It is very interesting also that those to whom Jesus spoke directly in Matthew chapter 24 saw the end of the Jewish system within 37 years. So virtually everyone in his audience was alive to see the fulfillment of his words. As one brother, a prominent branch overseer, quoted in the Crisis book asked, 'wouldn't it be simpler if we understood Jesus words about the "generation" to apply only in during that time period?' Indeed, it sure would have been simpler, because it all came togther back then, whereas in the past century, there has been nothing but needless speculation and disappointment due to the mis-application of Jesus' words.
ok guys and dolls, american football will start in a couple months, so who is the team you pull for?.
ok i know i will get shit for this but go cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the dallas cowboys
Turk, you're right - some great moments in that Cowboy-Niner rivalry!
In the early 70s, the 'Boys ousted SF twice in a row, including the playoff rally from 28-13 down to a 30-28 win in SF.
Then in the early 80s the rivalry resumed and there was "The Catch" - Dwight Clark from Joe Montana, one of the NFL's greatest moments.
In the 90's, the Boys won two out of three in conference title games against the Niners and three Super Bowls in four years, quite a run for Dallas.
Some good memories indeed......and Crazy, you are so right, and I said this before and I'll say it again.....The Vikings in a dome stadium is just plain wrong!
Edited by - jack2 on 10 July 2002 14:7:51
ok guys and dolls, american football will start in a couple months, so who is the team you pull for?.
ok i know i will get shit for this but go cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the dallas cowboys
Dana, you're right....college football is cool too!
I don't have a single favorite team, but I do like Michigan and Ohio State. Seems odd to like both sides in a bitter rivalry.
from what do you draw your self esteem, confidence, feelings of self worth etc.?.
over the years, i've drawn mine from being a good jw .
dana
Hi Dana,
Excellent post; and the replies have been excellent too!
When I served as an elder, I felt that almost all of my self-esteem issued from doing a good job with that. When I was removed, I felt a deep sense of loss and a lack of self-esteem. I felt that others in the congregation no longer respected me, though I am happy to say that my best friends in the congregation were good to me. But I had no one to discuss my feelings with.
Also, spending decades as a jw, I also felt that much of my self-esteem issued from being a good jw. As a result, I often battled deep feelings of guilt for not measuring up.
The removal was two years ago, and I have gradually worked on getting some self-esteem back, mainly by focusing on what I am able to do well and by making friends with people who do not judge me based on performance.
Almost every time I walk into a KH though, the feeling of inadaquacy comes back. I battle it the whole time I am there, which makes it hard to attend on a regular basis. I used to be so busy doing so many things there: now I go, sit, and do nothing because I no longer meet their high standards for being "used". It's tough on the ol self-esteem, that's for sure. But when I am away from that atmosphere, I feel pretty good about myself overall.
Thanks for the good post!
Edited by - jack2 on 10 July 2002 9:33:3
i am 38 years old and have never had a haircut in my life.
my hair is extremely long; it reaches past my derriere.
i can say, without conceit, that it truly is my crowning gory.
Dutchie, you're such a sweetie!! (((((((((((((((Dutchie)))))))))))))))
things must be getting pretty desperate.
i just heard some wonderful news of another boy being appointed a ministerial servant.
the comment was that even though he is young, he is very mature.another person, speaking of a different boy being appointed said that he had the added advantage of being home schooled and that really helped him to mature.
good point orangefatcat.....just heard today (teen grapevine) that a kid arround that age in our congregation has been known to smoke marijuana. He's no MS, but he is the son of an elder......and I doubt that daddy knows.
things must be getting pretty desperate.
i just heard some wonderful news of another boy being appointed a ministerial servant.
the comment was that even though he is young, he is very mature.another person, speaking of a different boy being appointed said that he had the added advantage of being home schooled and that really helped him to mature.
That is very young, though I guess not unheard of.
But, honestly, a lot could happen, including his getting a big head over his appointment. Giving a measure of authority to a guy that young could end up being a big mistake.
i'm not a fan of rap.
there are a few artists i like but i could count them on one hand.
i bought the last eminem cd and thought about 4 songs were "ok".
Yes, he's foul-mouthed. Yes, he's very controversial.
Now that that's been said.......I really dig his new single!!
(Only heard the bleeped-out version though)
