I am so sorry ((((((Bumble Bee))))))! My thoughts have been with you constantly since I heard about this yesterday.
Velvet
i still can't believe it.
she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.
i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.
I am so sorry ((((((Bumble Bee))))))! My thoughts have been with you constantly since I heard about this yesterday.
Velvet
last night he called at 2 am, woke my wife up, she answered the phone.
he was drunk, yelling and threatening to break into our house and physically harm me because i had his sorry ass thrown out for punching my stomach and destroyed our property while drunk on that day on july 8th.. she hit the flasher button (strobe light attached to a remote thingy that is activated by a remote button) and woke me up.
i go to her room and find her crying.
I am fairly new here but have been following a bit of Yizuman threads. My goodness I feel so bad for his wife and her health problems. I don't want to go back 7 years of threads here but Yizuman are you or your wife exjw's? Just don't ever seem to see anything but the problems of life on the threads, not problems with life as an exjw. Not being sarcastic, just curious. I have to say Yiz thatyou do not seem to have a dull moment lately and I do hope your wife is feeling better, I feel for her. I have acquired some very serious health problems recently that have affected my mobility and my husband has to to a lot of things for me and all the housework now. I am a exjw but my life problems now are not anything to do with being in the religion other than not having a career.
Velvet aka Deceived
we have friends who say that they have had some awful shepherdings,the things theyve been told in them were far from encouraging.. we havent ever had one so to be honest i cant comment...but would love to know if you had one?
were they regular and were they ever encouraging?
?.
I had one shepherding visit many years ago. I was married to an apposing husband and if I wanted to go to meetings he would make me take all the kids with me to the meetings, refused to take care of them even if one of them was sick. I had 4 children 6 years old and under. I was going to the meetings regularly but when I had my last baby it was just to much to go to the meetings and haul a newborn with me too. NO one in that congregation would help me with my children or even to bring in the baby carriage. I had made my bed, married an unbeliever (while disfellowshiped) and now had to many children. I got reinstated right after I had my second child. I was so worried about armageddon. But from the beginning after I got reinstated it was made clear in the 3 congregations that I attended that It wasn't their job to help me with the children at meetings. I just stopped going for awhile when I had my last baby. Two pompous elders came over to visit unannounced. My husband was livid. I had a hungry 4 week old baby in my arms and was breastfeeding. He was hungry when they arrived and wailing away while they preached at me. Finally I pulled a blanket to cover myself and started feeding the baby. They turned red, went silent, looked disgusted and said they had to .leave. That day I really started to disrespect them and it put me on the path to disassociation.
Velvet aka Deceived
her son, jesse, is in serious condition.. my son is in surgery and may lose his hand and arm.. jesse got an infection in a cut on his finger.
his finger and hand swelled to the size of an arm .. .
they have to do surgery on his hand and arm.
Flyinghighnow I just heard about this thread from Dinah. I am praying for your son too and my heart goes out to you and him.
I so hope they can do something for him. I have grown sons and I would be so out of my mind if their health was threatened so I feel for you so much.
Velvet aka Deceived
please hug someone.. anyone.. like this: (((((((palmtree))))))).
thanks.. sylvia.
((((((TO EVERYONE HERE))))))) From Deceived who used be known as Velvet on here.
in a local convenience store, the owners have installed an id checker for anyone purchasing alcohol.
they require you to put your id in this machine to determine whether or not you are of legal age.
even if you are 85 years of age, you have to comply or you can't buy a beer!.
Absolutely ridiculous, they deserve to lose the customers. I wouldn't mind if they asked for my ID if they thought I looked to young ;-) but when its obvious that you are OLD its silly.
me and my wife just got this great book from the library entitled 'i'm perfect you're doomed:tales from a jehovah's witness upbringing' writtin by kyria abrahams (an ex-jw).
i'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned or read it (it's still fairly new), but it is a great book.
for anyone who was raised in the 'troof' or group up in it you will find it very interesting.
I didn't know you get it in the library already?? I am in Canada I wonder if its here, I better go check.
There was a thread here somewhere by someone who said he didn't like the book at all. It ended up in a war of words so I wasn't sure if it was worth buying or not. I would prefer to borrow it for that reason.
Did anyone read the book Out of the Cocoon by Brenda Lee another ex Jw woman. I haven't read that one yet either but she sure is out there with her blogs and videos. http://www.outofthecocoon.net
I also had a horrible childhood being born in and brought up my zealous pioneer parents in the 50's 60's, I thought I was the only one and wanted to write a book about it. Now I see that I wasn't the only one and its a good thing I didn't write the book because I would have been just another story amoung thousands of us.
i made a comment about chronic fatigue syndrome (cfs) on another thread about why all pioneers seem to get sick, but i thought that cfs might deserve a thread of it's own.. i remember one pioneer who said she had "chronic fatigue syndrome.
" she read it in the awake and she decided she had it.
it was a syndrome that the doctors cannot prove or disprove, it is a syndrome that explains exhaustion when the other jw's say there is nothing wrong with you.. gathering information not from awake could be a real eye-opener to people like her.
My Mom and Dad moved to where the need was great in 1958 and became regular pioneers. From that time on my Mom was always having nervous breakdowns and mental health problems and probably CFS as she spent days in bed. I was a child and had to do all the house cleaning and cooking in the 1960's. They became special pioneers after I grew up and left home and got disfellowshipped. She still suffered horribly poor woman but she never ever blamed it on the religion.
Deceived
i believe i did in 1974, but i was just coming into the org and didn't realize the significance of the part he played.. it was a sunday at a stadium on the campus of the university of alabama in tuscaloosa.
all the "friends" were almost beside themselves with excitement, so looking back, it must have been f. w. franz!.
i'd worked until 6 pm that saturday night, had a one year old teething child, and had to arise at 3 am to get ready for the bus trip.. when we arrived, the weather had turned colder, the stadium was quite warm, and i fell asleep a few minutes into the talk.
I did hear him several times in the 1960's but its so long ago and I was a kid so the only venue I do remember for sure was Yankee Stadium 1963 I think. I was so bored all the time but you couldn't ignore him, with his high ptiched voice shouting everything out. My Mom was in awe of him, acted like he was God and told me to pay close attention. I heard Knorr too but he had a nicer demeanor.
Is anyone else like me who was a witness in the 50's, 60's and not able to remember details. I was a kid going to assemblies constantly but I don't remember much but the long lineups at the bathrooms and the cafteria tents and having to stand to eat out of steel trays like the prisons have. I shoved it to the back of my mind or maybe it was so long ago that it just fades. I was disfellowshiped in 1967 and so was absent from assemblies until I stupidly got reinstated in 1977. So I had a 10 year gap without assemblies.
raising children in the jw cult is child abuse because the jw cult is the most dangerous organization on earth.
the jw cult is totally satanic.
anybody who is a jw is insane and psychotic and incapable of logical and analytical thinking.
I had a Horrible life growing up as a Jehovah's witness. My parents meant well and they would not have thought of it as child abuse. They thought they were saving me and doing something good for me. So I would say it was not abuse in that they were trying to be loving with what they thought was right for us and me.
On the other hand I had NO childhood, no friends, no fun, just constant meetings, assemblies, door to door witnessing and being the object of abuse and teasing from the kids at school. I grew up very unhappy, had no self esteem and ended up pretty well ruining my life trying to get away from it.
Other kids in my congregation had a nice life and nice parents who tried to make life fun for them. Mine were the all or nothing type people. No fun for us until the New system comes. Well its 40 years ago that i left my parents house and they are passed away and still NO New System. That upsets me as life could have been so much nicer if I/we didn't have death and destruction hanging over our heads all our lives.
I don't blame the parents but I do blame the WTBTS for their death and destruction fear of dying messages if you don't do what they say
By the way I haven't been on here for over a year. Somehow I got booted out of JWD accidently and couldn't find my password and no one got back to me when I wrote tech support. I finally got back in yesterday with a whole new sign up. I sure missed it here.