i have a very close jw friend who i have known for a number of years.
she was like the big sister i never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
we both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered jw in good standing.
Thanks for your comment, AKJeff. You are right. Either direction I take on this matter will affect the the outcome of the relationship that it will not remain the same and seeing that we really are two worlds apart, it will eventually fizzle out.
Thank you for the suggestions. While she is still making conversation with me, I will be more attentive to the things she say and see how I can engage her outside of JWism.
i have a very close jw friend who i have known for a number of years.
she was like the big sister i never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
we both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered jw in good standing.
True, Yan. Time will tell.
i have a very close jw friend who i have known for a number of years.
she was like the big sister i never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
we both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered jw in good standing.
I have read CoC and am on the last chapter of Cult Control. Hassan has some wonderful suggestions and it is funny that I did not bother to think about that before posting this topic. You are right though. Since she is not in the area, I shouldn't really worry too much about the matter. She contacts me me more than I do her, but when I hear from her, those nostalgic feelings come over me. Thanks for the suggestion, ABibleStudent.
i have a very close jw friend who i have known for a number of years.
she was like the big sister i never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
we both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered jw in good standing.
That's what I want, CC. Unconditional friendship. I don't want to cut her off, but it may eventually lead to the dissolution of our friendship because I am contemplating a total removal from the borg with a DA letter. I guess for now, I will just go with the flow.
Thank you for your comments. Greatly appreciate it.
i have a very close jw friend who i have known for a number of years.
she was like the big sister i never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
we both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered jw in good standing.
Honestly CC, I really don't know. Lately, she has been sending me scriptural texts only, which is cool with me. But then she tend to do the JW talk, like when she texted me to let me know of her son's reinstatement she stated that she is so happy to be "serving Jehovah shoulder to shoulder" with her son. Then stated that I am next and that she'll be waiting for me to return.
And then, there are times when we can talk to one another and keep JW out of the discussion and just have real girl talk.
I would hope that we can remain friends outside of JW, but not sure.
i have a very close jw friend who i have known for a number of years.
she was like the big sister i never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
we both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered jw in good standing.
I have a very close JW friend who I have known for a number of years. She was like the big sister I never had, always looking out for me and was very helpful during my challenging moments.
We both came into the religion around the same time and both of us were pretty much fringe Dubs, just making the bare minimum to be considered JW in good standing. We were both liberal-minded and always shared our views of the borg and the hypocrisy we see (before I discovered "apostate" material online around 2007 that gave me a more open-eyed view of the "truth"). I felt that our bond was stronger than the religion itself. That was until 2009, when I told her about my concerns and discoveries about the religion and how I needed to take a "break". She understood and gave me my space, believing that I will return. Well, here we are two years later and no return.
Other than my parents, I cut off association with 98% of the JW I knew. Better to cut them out of my life than to play into their little shun games. However, with her, it is different. She still makes contact with me via text, email or will call me to catch up on old times since she no longer lives in the area. When she doesn't talk about JW, I am willing to talk to her. When she does, I will not respond or ignore. I know that the indoctrination is taking hold of her and even more so now that her son has been reinstated (another story that I won't go into).
I guess I post this because I am at a loss on what to do. Don't want to give up the friendship, but know it will come with a price of her trying to persuade me to go back to the vomit that I have no intention of returning to. What I would really like to do is sow a seed in her mind that will get her to think and hopefully see the lie for herself. Just not skilled enough to do so at the moment as I am still in research mode. I tried with her before, but it got a bit heated and I had to catch myself before it got worse. At any rate, your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
i remember being in my dub uncles friends car when e,w & f came on and he goes "don't let your unc know you heard this song".
i didn't ask why at the time, but then some years later i hear again that dubs have something against e, w & f. (not that they don't have something against anyone who isn't one of them) but what went on between the two groups?
LOL @ Quarterback
this is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).
address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.
http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.
I feel sorry for all past, present and future Bethelites who had/have and will endure this torture. It would have been more humble for them to just say a short and thankful prayer for the food and eat instead of this need of forced study before a meal. Such a high controlling clan they are.
this is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).
address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.
http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.
I think I would have found a way of skipping morning breakfast in less than a week's time of being there. I couldn't stomach the thought of having to sit through such monotonous drivel every freaking day.
i remember being in my dub uncles friends car when e,w & f came on and he goes "don't let your unc know you heard this song".
i didn't ask why at the time, but then some years later i hear again that dubs have something against e, w & f. (not that they don't have something against anyone who isn't one of them) but what went on between the two groups?
I was going to do a post on this, but decided to search on here.
I believe the rumor stemmed from my neck of the woods (Washington, DC). From what I heard, EWF were known for their mysticism on stage. Supposedly, some friends were at a concert of theirs and whatever they were tryng to do on stage wasn't working. Then an announcement was made stating that if there were any Jehovah's Witnesses in the audience, that they need to leave.
From there along with some of their artwork on their covers, JW have issues, even to this day, with the band. One sister I mentioned this to claim that it is true and that she was there at the concert when it took place. Yeah, ok. Whatever...
I heard similar about John Denver as far as his hatred of JW.
