on facebook tonight there was a post asking to take a personality test, in posting the personality tests a trend started emerging that certain personality types seem to leave around the same time.. i came out as an intj which is introverted intuitive thinking judging.
which a good paragraph describing it was:.
intjs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "does it work?
Age: 31
Type: INT J
Reason: False/illogical doctrine
Actually this sentence in my personality type summary gives the reason pretty well: "Masterminds are highly theoretical, but they insist on looking at all available data before they embrace an idea, and they are suspicious of any statement that is based on shoddy research, or that is not checked against reality."
NO matter what you try to "Prove" wrong, one could say "No that was symbolic," "No, day doesn't really mean day, it means xxxxx", "Evidently this is referring to...", "That has an invisible fulfillment".
Never and in no way can you pin down the Bible as being wrong to a believer. You might as well go out and prove to a Republican that Democratic policy is "right" or vice-versa.
Have to go UK on this. Especially for the size. Its like the entire catalogue of US music all came from California. Very impressive.
i know that some will disagree on this, and say you can ask questions.
yet, i ask you to honestly think what would happen if you openly started asking questions on jw doctrine or evolution.
likely you would be made to feel like i did below if you started asking these questions to other jws.. .
Here's how questions will be answered this organization:
"Here is the current answer. If you don't like it, wait for the next answer. Until then, you must believe, or at least pretend to believe, the current answer."
...i was told but they usually were as i look back.. as a lad i'd sit and look to see who the lights would fall on.
i'd get an almond and see how long i could suck it before i chewed at it.
i'd imagine playing rock'n'roll on the congregation's piano.. how did you get through the meetings when you were bored?.
Sunday's were easily the best because you had the WT so you could at least draw on something, read something, circle random words, make some stupid little game since you had material to look at and write on.
Also doing the sound was a MASSIVE "blessing". Back in the sound booth you could do all sorts of random things, or at the least continually talk to people who were coming and going from the bathroom.
may you all have peace!.
i know, i know... from body members: why is she going there, again??
but... i have what i believe are a couple/few valid questions, so i must ask that you indulge me, if you can.
Just a few thoughts on human evolution: While still ongoing, clearly, there are some mitigating factors. The nature and ability of the human species to value each human life does slow down evolution in the "survival of the fittest" sense. In our world, all people (no matter how bad their genes or how unfit for survival they may be), all people are entitled to the same rights, protections, and potential to procreate. It actually might be argued that the most successful, intelligent, etc people in the world are less likely to produce many offspring than others, due to their pure dedication to their jobs/profession/etc.
Also, evolution works quickest when populations become isolated, allowing their gene pools to diverge separately. With the global community, most races, nationalities, etc are having their genes continually mixed with all others. So that will slow things down as well.
Also, since humans are becoming in such control of things like genetic engineering, health care, and on and on, the changes we make to ourselves are going to be more pronounced than what nature would try to do over, say, a million years.
... and wanted to disrupt sites like this one and activities of 'apostates' in general, what would i do?.
would i send apologists who were obviously on the side of the wts to spew out the typical wts message, ones that would be quickly labelled and disagreed with?
maybe ... it would get people riled up.
why not equate apostates and their every word with satan and everlasting death so people are too afraid to go to this site? brilliant!
at last year's local memorial service, purported to honor jesus' sacrificial death and its signficance to the eternal prospects of humanity, the visiting speaker from bethel quite remarkably managed to talk for almost an hour without one recourse to the word "resurrection".. a remarkable achievement, given its centrality in the belief system of nominal christianity.
nor were the stirring moments of high drama in the bible's depicting of jesus last hours on earth-- his last supper and his prayer for the well-being of his disciples, the betrayal of judas, the agony of the garden; his disciples' succumbing to sleep; his betrayal and arrest in the garden of gethesemane; the scattering of his fear-gripped disciples; peter's denial, and the climactic soul-stirring awareness of the signficance of the empty tomb and its guardian's chilling pronouncement to mary magdalene and the women "why are you searching for the living among the dead?"...
and so on, to his post-resurrection appearance at emmaus, etc.. all of this was swept aside in favor of convincing those in attendance that they had no business in partaking of the emblematic bread and wine.
The idea that there have not been 144,000 faithful christians in history has got to be the most logical absurd doctrine of the Witnesses because its not even something like Noah's Flood where you might have to depend on science (trusthworthy though it may be) to show how ridiculous it is.
Not 144,000 true christians before the 20th century. How can anyone THINK about that and justify it in their mind. And then to go ahead and say "oh well there may have been chrisitans who THOUGHT they were sincere but they actually had some things wrong." Well in that case, there are ZERO true christians in history. Every member of the JW 144,000 who died earlier, died believing false doctrines that have been changed. How much more wrong about a million things could a JW annointed who died in 1920 be???? THey shouldn't count either.
Actually thats a good out for the FDS. All the annointed who died believing old light aren't qualified. We need 144,000 to die faithful with the current lite. That could go on forever...
at one point in my life i chose to stop listening to my religion's advice to not research outside of their framework.
about the time i made that decision was when the gay marriage debate was going very strong; and still is to this day.
back then i felt like my state of california was leading the front on it to stop the bigotry and oppression once and for all.. it was a hot topic for me because i was questioning the bible and my faith so i started researching the science of homosexulality.
An interesting question would be, if scientist found out there was a gene controlling this and they found a way to disable it. Would homosexuals volunteer? Would religious fanatics try and make this into a law? Is it unethical to even offer such alternative?
I don't see why they would volunteer unless they were a victim of stigma or bullying or things like that. Or maybe if they really wanted to raise a family. Otherwise, why change yourself?
Relgions would be a crossroads, as they'd have to support genetic manipulation and experimentation. I'd guess they would not support it because it would be opening Pandora's Box for them really.
WHy would it be unethical to offer the alternative? They offer trans-gender surgeries, etc. It would be unethical to force it.
at one point in my life i chose to stop listening to my religion's advice to not research outside of their framework.
about the time i made that decision was when the gay marriage debate was going very strong; and still is to this day.
back then i felt like my state of california was leading the front on it to stop the bigotry and oppression once and for all.. it was a hot topic for me because i was questioning the bible and my faith so i started researching the science of homosexulality.
It’s interesting discussing this with you Simon
I thought it was interesting too
That is only a theory and I won’t be marching for gay pride to prove it!
Well I think we can both agree that no matter what science says about homosexuality, we'll treat them and their personal choice with the same respect as any other fellow human who makes non-harmful choices that are different than our own.
I would suggest that most creatures would be better off without mankind on earth. There are forms of life on earth much older than man and it is likely they will outlast our species.
You are definitely correct about that, right now anyway. Maybe humans will wise up and become fabulous at protecting wildlife in the future, creating sanctuaries of all kinds. Or maybe we'll force most animlas into extinction. Its hard to say. Right now our record is pretty bad though.
