JW caption: "Like worshippers of Moloch, those who put their families above serving God may end up serving Satan"
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from this week's congregation bible study, the first 8 paragraphs of chapter 4 in the jeremiah book.
page 44 as follows.. in our case, we certainly do not think of ourselves as worshippers of idol gods.
however, under the heading of "god", one dictionary says: a person or thing of supreme value.
JW caption: "Like worshippers of Moloch, those who put their families above serving God may end up serving Satan"
--sd-7
i won't follow a theme on this thread .
i'm just going to supply weird quotes from the current 1/15 wt article " keep drawing close to jehovah " and then you can draw your own takes and conclusions on these insane " opinions " from the wt society.. paragraph 3 : " marketers cleverly convince people that they must have the latest products.
one young man so passionately desired a particular tablet computer that he secretly sold one of his kidneys to buy it.
And if we die, we cannot serve him at all.
This may also be an unintentional slip of the tongue. What happened to the resurrection, guys? Or "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"? Looks like dying really is it, after all...in which case, I really need to not waste 5 hours a week at meetings, 'cause that's like, what, let me see here...whoa, 260 hours a year? 11 days of life per year spent just zombied out at meetings? No way, man.
--sd-7
another great catch by "the snarky apologist" on youtube......................................................i'm looking for this pdf can anyone give me a link.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihh1_uc9s4.
This was one of the interesting things I learned about near the beginning of my research--the 'Trinity' brochure. I went to the University of Maryland's library to look up a quote from the John Rylands Library article, and found that this was a statement to my surprise that DENIED JESUS EVER CLAIMED TO BE CHRIST. The Society edited out that part of the sentence and used the quote. But if a regular JW was found to be reading this book, it would be classed as apostasy. Seeing it in black and white really helped settle the doubts. I might even still have a copy of that page.
So they took it down? And here I thought they weren't concerned about shielding themselves from criticism!
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http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/illustrated-bible-stories/.
my mom was showing these to my wife--kind of interesting.
haven't had any chance to look over them myself, though.
The stories have a distinct animation style, and even the text is standardized in a way that seems a little too stale for the dynamic animation--it's like they dropped in the text from Microsoft Word without giving any thought to how the font would mix with the animation.
Two things I notice right away. One, they add thoughts and statements not found in the actual text, like the men of Sodom saying the angels would be sorry they ever came to Sodom. Two, they leave out specific, but important, details.
In Lot's story, as was mentioned, he offered his own daughters to a violent, horny mob rather than the men who were visiting. Of course, this underscores that women were not regarded very highly in that culture, as I can't see anyone of our time doing that without being seen as an epic coward. I remember always being told that it was very important for a host back then to protect his guests, even giving his life for them--except Lot didn't offer his life, he offered his virgin daughters' lives. No wonder they got him drunk and rode him like a rented mule until he knocked them both up. ...And that's how Lot became a dad AND a granddad all wrapped into one, kids! I can see the legal problems that could arise from THAT illustrated Bible story...
In the story of Jacob, they omit the fact that Jacob tricks Isaac into blessing him, when Isaac clearly thought he was blessing Esau. A situation that sets up animosity between the two of them--when your parent actively participates in sibling rivalry, it really creates a moral gray area; of course, Esau was probably a jerk and had it coming. Still, obviously teaching kids that it's okay to deceive your parents, since Jacob did it with his mom's approval, maaaybe not the best lesson to teach. They also omit the part where the angel (who is referred to only as a 'man' in the text, but for some reason he's an angel, I don't know why, to be honest, I'm sure I could find out if I cared) takes Jacob's socket out of joint, opting to show Jacob merely holding his side but not explaining why. Angel injures faithful servant of God, an old man, after wrestling him all night. Not exactly the kind of thing that makes you look forward to divine blessing--wrestling a random guy all night and then he injures you and you're limping for the rest of your days?
But that's probably nothing earth-shattering. I mean, it could have been worse. Although Lot's wife turning into salt was a little unsettling. But it's all safely PG, for thematic elements and a disturbing image.
--sd-7
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/illustrated-bible-stories/.
my mom was showing these to my wife--kind of interesting.
haven't had any chance to look over them myself, though.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/illustrated-bible-stories/
My mom was showing these to my wife--kind of interesting. Haven't had any chance to look over them myself, though. I'm wondering if they throw in anything that's not quite in the account. I would guess there's been another thread about this somewhere, but I haven't seen it. Any thoughts? If I get a chance to look at them I'll be sure to post my own thoughts, but I saw nothing unusual about them, except it's really no different than regular comics--Rated Teen for violence. Lot's wife getting turned to salt and all...
--sd-7
captain code named sd-7.
self-destruct code 0-0-0-alpha-gamma-1.
this will be my final entry on jehovahs-witness.net.
Do you feel you are in a better place than you were 3 years ago?
Hells yeah! Life has definitely not been easy, but I'm in a better place now. Relieved to be free of the cult and not worried about all their stuff anymore. I feel like I've finally become more of my authentic self. Smarter, tougher, and better off after surviving the worst of the struggles. Ready to face whatever goes down in the future.
It's also a little funny to notice, on an unrelated note, how I used to call myself SD-7, rather than sd-7. I wonder when I changed to the smaller letters.
But yeah, it's been a long road. Good to be closer to home, though, very good indeed.
--sd-7
..... you to stop attending ?
injustices ?
disagree with the teachings ?
Not since July 2012, the final day of the district convention. But I'd stopped going before that on the night of the Memorial in March 2010. I had already decided I was done with the religion as I'd proven to myself that it just wasn't the true religion. I was going to keep attending to support my wife and stepdaughter, but I realized it was pointless and that nothing would ever make our relationship better after what had happened. And I didn't want to see the people from my old congregation ever again, which is what would've happened if I'd gone to the Memorial--I didn't remember the location where my wife's congregation was having their Memorial, so she insisted on going to my old KH's Memorial. I just stayed in the car that night, and that was it.
The emotional abuse I received from my wife and mother and brother, plus the emotional and spiritual abuse of the elders, convinced me there was no reason to return. They had nothing to offer as a reason to go back other than their own belief in the rightness of their organization. So...it was liberating. I no longer have to dread meeting nights.
--sd-7
great time of year for us football fans !
so let's have your picks !
now that we know it will be baltimore ravens vs. new england patriots in the afc championship and atlanta falcons vs. san fransisco 49ers in the nfc championship - what do you think ?
Since the Redskins lost, I'd normally root for whoever wins to represent the NFC. I'd rather go with 49ers and Ravens, and pretty much I wouldn't care who won, either one would be great, really, since Baltimore is also close to my area. Also, the Super Bowl means the Swimsuit Issue is not far away, so...that's also a reason to be in a good mood about it all.
--sd-7
i won't follow a theme on this thread .
i'm just going to supply weird quotes from the current 1/15 wt article " keep drawing close to jehovah " and then you can draw your own takes and conclusions on these insane " opinions " from the wt society.. paragraph 3 : " marketers cleverly convince people that they must have the latest products.
one young man so passionately desired a particular tablet computer that he secretly sold one of his kidneys to buy it.
" Sickness serves Satan's purpose, for when we are sick, it is harder for us to serve Jehovah. And if we die, we cannot serve him at all. Naturally, then, we want to do what we can to stay healthy. "
Because obviously, that's the only reason we don't want to get sick, right? I mean, there's just absolutely nothing else in life worth staying healthy for. Truly these guys are some sick f***s.
Certain eagles are reported to have drowned when they did not release from their talons a fish that was too heavy to carry off. Could something similar happen to a Christian ?
Nope. We invented fishing hooks, lifejackets, CPR, that sort of thing. So...we're good, long as we follow common sense safety guidelines. Imitate Peter's example--use a net!
" Indeed, resting our hope on our savings, investments, or ability to earn money in this system amounts to resting our hope on " the god of this system, " Satan. "
Well, then, better not give you guys any donations--certainly not any savings accounts, investments, or indeed any work that has monetary value at all, lest we put you in a position of resting your hope on Satan...just to be safe. Wouldn't want you to be stumbled on my account.
--sd-7
captain code named sd-7.
self-destruct code 0-0-0-alpha-gamma-1.
this will be my final entry on jehovahs-witness.net.
Whoa. Didn't mean to make such a long post. Here's hopin' nobody reads it...
--sd-7