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  not seeing the forest for the trees

  by El_Guapo in

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  sometimes when you are in the borg, you miss the obvious.

  i recall a sheperding call around sept. 2001. i was a brand-new m.s.

  and went with an older elder.

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  Yeah, no surprises there. It's strange, really, that they blast Christendom for having stuff like hospitals, programs for the poor, that sort of thing. One would think Jesus set the example that he wanted the sick and the poor to be helped, and that was the opposite of what his enemies were doing.

  But hey, just the absence of abusive behavior would be an effing miracle, much less actively helping others. Granted, there are exceptions. My wife told me that while she was in the DF'd state, someone in the local congregation gave her rides to meetings and even baby clothes when her first child was born. Honorable in itself, but the problem is, if she had refused to attend meetings, we all know they would never have done anything for her. It's only because she was on the road to reinstatement that they bothered.

  The organization as a whole does not have any program in place that is designed solely for helping the poor. If they did, we know they would boasting the hell out of it in the magazines and the Yearbook. So...it's one effed up forest, that's for sure. Let no more fruit come from you forever, you self-righteous sons of birches.

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  The balance of the universe

  by cptkirk in

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  i just wanted to put a few minor examples out there of what i was saying about crime (good/bad), balance in the world, and so forth, picking up from the post that i wrote on here a few days ago.. i want to just also say that i am not condoning crime, nor advocating crime or anything of the sort.

  i am merely saying let's look at the world, and understand it a little better.. i was just listening to megadeth (former jw dave mustaine lead singer of course)....i love his music, and i think he is really talented.

  imagine if no crime had been committed against dave though.

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  Well, if such a world as the Paradise Earth were to exist, it would be kind of a dystopia with a dark secret. People who did decide to go the way of Satan would be exterminated and never spoken of again. And no one would even be able to rebel anymore. Eventually, maybe no one would even be able to feel anymore. A dreamlike state would remain over everything and everyone. No variations, nothing new ever done or discovered, eventually there's nothing left to do except...what?

  I don't suppose the victims of crime would agree that this is the better world, though. Not that you said that, Mon Capitaine. I feel like doing a Q voice from 'The Next Generation' now, though. "Pitiful human. You really believe that your savage race will ever rise above petty, animalistic brutality and greed and selfishness?"

  

  But you know, if you think about it, you're right. How else could we reach deeper into ourselves and find a greater good, if not when we are confronted by a great evil? It tests us and enables us to rethink our worldview and adjust our society to protect the innocent and make things more fair for everyone and at least try to prevent criminals from utterly destroying the fabric of our world. I may be wrong. But I do think you have a point here, Mr. Kirk.

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  Rock Center 1/17/2013 Expose on Scientology drew JW similarities

  by RagingBull in

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  did anyone watch the nbc program "rock center" last night?

  it dealt with scientology defectors and the stories, (shunning, tax-exempte etc) sounded very much like the watchtower/jehovah witnesses!.

  i sat with my family...and there was dead silence throughout the report.

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  I noticed in Entertainment Weekly they had a review about the book that's come out on Scientology. I didn't even realize it was the same guy who wrote that excellent article about Paul Haggis in The New Yorker. Glad to hear the show was enlightening. May have to watch a recap of it if I have a chance.

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  "I just want to keep them alive."

  by cedars in

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  does anyone ever feel this way when they see older family members (parents, grandparents etc) growing old or experiencing failing health?.

  do you ever feel that you should be able to somehow keep them alive - and feel frustrated and hopeless that you can't?.

  cedars.

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  sd-7

  Valar morghulis, all men must die. Can't avoid it forever. I don't think I'll understand it until I lose more people I was close to, but since leaving the cult, I've been emotionally distant from everyone in my family, even the non-JW side.

  My thought is, since we know that death is on its way, the best thing to do is to create something that outlives us. It doesn't have to be kids. For me, I've been fortunate enough to have one of my own, but I don't know. I have tried to write down as many moments of my life as I possibly could. I'm hoping that whenever I die, they won't have to wonder about that story I kept telling them, they'll be able to read about it in my old journals. I've got nearly 15 years worth of stuff written down so far. Probably need to scan it and store it someplace offsite in the event of a fire.

  It's not my place to try and beat back death. "There is no defeat in death. Victory comes in doing what good we can while we still live."--Alfred Pennyworth, 'Batman & Robin'. To remember all there is to remember, to record all there is to record, about the people closest to us, maybe we can preserve a piece of who they were that way. I don't know. It's not simple.

  Maybe I'll understand in 20 more years or so. If I live that long myself, really. But I don't think I will be able to function if I give too much thought to death and what it will do to us all. The way I see it, best to fight today's battles and hope that the best of us will still be around to fight tomorrow's, whether the best of us is in the form of people or memories or wisdom.

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  Learn the word MANUMISSION; use it instead of DISFELLOWSHIP

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what a huge favor the watchtower religion does for those who awaken to its phoney cartoon theology!.

  wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn"he/she/it manumitted" - tense past.

  "he/she/it had manumitted" - tense past perfect.

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  I had switched to using 'expulsion' as the replacement word, but 'manumission' sounds so much better. I was manumitted almost 3 years ago. And sadly, no, that is not what she said, in this case.

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  CLOUD ATLAS: a movie or a life experience?

  by Terry in

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  2. entertainment

  my 19 year old daughter lily and i attended the opening day of cloud atlas.. .

  i would suggest you watch this little "overview" before continuing.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubk647t944a&feature=bfa&list=plvfin74qx3twq2dnqx5f4wlrrr5b-pez7.

  movies can be a lot of things ranging from mindless entertainment, spectacle, diversion, exploitation and such to straight storytelling.. what movies almost never are is what cloud atlas is.. what is it?.

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  Well, 'War Horse' was a pretty good movie.

  Would love to see 'Cloud Atlas', though. Well, okay, the theme speaks to me very strongly, and Halle Berry doesn't hurt, either. So...pretty much I'm in, but I'll have to wait for the Blu-ray. I like movies that make you think or, as a guy in another 'Atlas'-named story once said, "Check your premises."

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  Anyone see the Today Show segment on Scientology this mornign 1/17?

  by dreamgolfer in

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  very good publicity to what a cult is... (ssshhhh i have a crush on savannah guthrie )she is soooo smart!.

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  I didn't, sadly. I do remember the Today Show episode a year or two ago, about the article in 'The New Yorker' that covered Paul Haggis and his leaving Scientology. I thought it was very well done. Glad to see this issue is still being kept out there. Matt Lauer was interviewing the writer of the article during that interview, and he seemed a bit disinclined to believe people can fall prey to 'destructive influence' and end up in a cult. Best for more people to understand what cults really do and not just think that being smart alone will protect you.

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  Secular forum reacts to FDS "new light"

  by cedars in

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  it's a short discussion, but it's interesting to see an outsider's perspective on the "new light.".

  http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=251464.

  cedars.

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  It's just like Lot's sons-in-law. They think it's all a joke. Soon they'll be filling up my post-Armageddon salt shaker!

  But that really is a good thread there. It's kind of surprising that they don't just go ahead and capitalize Faithful and Discreet Slave at this point. I doubt anyone would notice.

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  THE SLAVE WHO LIVED TO SEE THE SIGN !!!!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  chapter 17 " god's kingdom has approached " 1973 .

  highlights and ( domestics ) added.

  21 although raising the question about the "faithful and discreet slave," jesus was in no doubt about who this "slave" was.

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  sd-7

  that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as darkness now

  "Oh, so you think darkness is your ally? But you merely adopted the dark. I was born in it."

  "Sometimes, a man rises from the darkness."

  Couldn't resist...

  --sd-7
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  A treacherous heart might decieve a Christian making him unable to see that his family is actually, Moloch.

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  2. friends

  from this week's congregation bible study, the first 8 paragraphs of chapter 4 in the jeremiah book.

  page 44 as follows.. in our case, we certainly do not think of ourselves as worshippers of idol gods.

  however, under the heading of "god", one dictionary says: a person or thing of supreme value.

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  Ah. There it is--the whole point of the joke! A Moloch comic! Still gotta read this one!

  --sd-7