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  GB sidles out of 1919 and puts 1914 in the bin. (WT study.)!!

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".

  unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".

  the way is now paved.

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  BIG noolite on 1914 is coming, and it depends on this old 1914 teaching.

  I've been skeptical about them ever fiddling with 1914 or discarding it. Certainly their moving start of the FDS inspection time to 1914 seems to support the date even further. But the more I think of it, the more I realize that with each of the significant changes in recent years, there has probably been an article beforehand that dropped a subtle hint in advance and prepared the minds of the JW audience to accept the change in full.

  But what could they possibly say further about 1914 at this point? Clearly what they've done with the July 15th, 2013 WT shifts a date backwards in time, but there's really not much more. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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  Thought Control in New Light on FDS Article

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the july, 2013 watchtower article giving their "new light" on the fds begins as follows:.

  'brothers, i cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what i needed when i needed it most.

  ' that is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

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  But they could also write articles based on reports from elders and circuit overseers and the like, so again, given that even the most intimate, personal details of a JW's life can be known by elders, who will then put them in reports and send them to the Society, there are entirely human reasons why the articles seem to fit someone's personal circumstances.

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  What's the incentive for becoming a JW now? July 15th 2013 Watchtower

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Mrs. Dazed said, "Maybe I will come back when the UN attacks Christendom" Knowing that this will probably never happen.

  If it does, I owe you a Coke.
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  JW teen must have transfusion: Judge rules

  by Tiktaalik in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.smh.com.au/national/teen-witness-must-have-a-transfusion-rules-judge-20130417-2i0lc.html.

  summary:.

  17 year old jw has been ordered by the court to undergo a transfusion if his doctors deem it necessary.

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  80% chance of more blood on WT's hands, then. I hope he survives regardless. If he ever wakes up and fully grasps what he was about to die for, it would be really heartbreaking for him.

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  Do you follow your " spirit directed " conscience and bible principles?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  vincent toole, solicitor for the jehovah's witnesses, said the fact that the church got working with children checks had nothing to do with steven unthank, whom he suggested was behind the court case.

  ''we find it disappointing that he continues to misrepresent our organisation.''........

  ....''jehovah's witnesses abhor child abuse, and place the protection of children at the highest level,'' he said.. .

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  The laws of the land really only matter to the Society so far as it becomes a matter of legal liability. 'Bible principles' really only means 'Watchtower law'. And since WT already had its own rules for the elders about this, they're going to stop there and not question whether it's the right thing to call the police in cases of molestation.

  I mean, we're talking about the same people who were teaching well into the 20th century that rape is fornication. How much can you really expect from them?

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  Thought Control in New Light on FDS Article

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the july, 2013 watchtower article giving their "new light" on the fds begins as follows:.

  'brothers, i cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what i needed when i needed it most.

  ' that is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

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  The GB must have thought this new light might be controversial, else why would they have felt the need to start out by telling JWs how appreciative they should be?

  Well, yeah. It was either going to be that or a flat-out appeal to authority. In this case, they kinda went with both--thought control and an appeal to authority all in the first couple of paragraphs.

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  Thought Control in New Light on FDS Article

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the july, 2013 watchtower article giving their "new light" on the fds begins as follows:.

  'brothers, i cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what i needed when i needed it most.

  ' that is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

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  That is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

  There's a reason this shouldn't surprise us. The articles they write are clearly, at least in part, based upon letters they receive from JWs. The articles they write are not coincidence, as likely they're a response to what seems to be a pressing need on the part of those who write in. There's nothing supernatural about that, since they probably get enough letters about one subject, or one particularly noteworthy letter about one subject, and then write an article based on that.

  Think of how many times they quote from letters that were written. While we don't know if the quotes are legitimate, we do know that people do write to WT headquarters. That said, to suggest that the articles are proof that Jesus is feeding us is to make something ordinary--like writers responding to letters they receive from a number of people--seem extraordinary--as if the Governing Body is reading our minds or Jesus is reading our minds and then telling them what articles to write.

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  Rebuttals:"Wait on Jehovah"

  by Emery in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok i think most of you at some point have come across the apologetic saying "wait on jehovah" from jws whenever an injustice occurs in the organization.

  many have also used this expression to abandon evidence against the "truth".

  this has easily become one of my biggest pet peeves now since speaking to others about ttatt.

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  Does that mean we are not personally responsible for what we believe? If we are not, then why is Babylon the Great? People are told to 'Get out of her' because of her sins. Were they supposed to wait, or act?

  Jesus said that if anyone says to you, 'I am he' and 'The due time has approached', do not go after them. Did he mean to say, wait on Jehovah to correct what they are saying, and then go after them anyway even if he doesn't correct them?

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  New GB pic 2013?

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw a new gb pic on a youtube channel i tried doing a google search for 2013 pics but nothing came up.

  man, those guys got old fast!

  they all look much younger in 2009..

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  Well, the new picture is in the July 15, 2013 WT. I lack the technical skills to post it here, though.

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  Inquiry on GB 2.0 member - Did they get married?

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's been a while since we heard about their engagement.

  did they break it off?

  did they get married?.

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  Would they not show up at a Kingdom Hall, sit together, and maybe (God forbid) hold hands during the service?

  Hold hands? You know that's not allowed during a meeting! [Appropriate distance from prospective mate (approx. 8 meters)]

  --sd-7