Posts by sd-7

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Who is the mediator for the R&F now?

by nonjwspouse in

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has this been changed?

i thought this might need a new thread.. the memorials i have heard about multiple ones noted the prayer ending with something like "jesus our mediator".. sams on another thread :.

nonjwspouse: sahs, so has it now been stated that jesus is only the mediator for the fds, not all the anointed as was previously?.

sd-7

The 'faithful slave' is the mediator for the R&F now. They've gone so far as to say that once they get to heaven they'll help apply the value of the ransom sacrifice to mankind's sins over the course of a thousand years. So they describe the 'other sheep' as being 'beneficiaries of the new covenant' while not being part of it. The only way said 'sheep' can get the benefits would be to 'remain associated with Jesus' anointed brothers'. So...no benefits unless you obey the WTS.

Now probably if you say this to any JW, they'll think you're crazy, but if it's said in print in a WT, they'll be on the phone with their friends saying, "Oh, that was such a nice Watchtower this week! Yeah! Mmm hmm." Knowing they don't remember half of it, but they've got to make conversation about it, right?

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Unsung Heroes of J.W net

by new hope and happiness in

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been on this site 8 months now, but not on a daily basis.

recently discoverd a poster named processor, loved his tread on the life of jesus.

anyway the guys posts never seem to make long threads.

sd-7

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Unsung Heroes of J.W net

by new hope and happiness in

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friends

been on this site 8 months now, but not on a daily basis.

recently discoverd a poster named processor, loved his tread on the life of jesus.

anyway the guys posts never seem to make long threads.

sd-7

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HAPPY APOSTATES 2014 the Video

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpp2sdkgdgo.

sd-7

That video was hilarious and heartwarming. I watched it last night. I felt both happy and sad. Happy for those folks who have found peace and yet sad knowing how much more sorrow there is yet to face, in my own life and in so many others' lives who still have tough choices to make. Or have yet to even find out and wake up. Anyway, it was nice to see their faces and all. Could be this video is a real mood-booster I can watch if I'm down one day in the future.

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A farce elder here

by His Excellency in

just to share a little about me:.

i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

sd-7

You might want to check with them and find out if they think it was worth it to loose all their family and friends to find out what a hypocritical organization this is, somehow I doubt they would agree.

Well, it was going to happen anyway. Pretty much most of my family consists of jerks anyway, but I didn't need a JC to figure that out. Losing family and friends is par for the course for people who get expelled.

Besides, you really think this guy is the lucky one in all this? I don't. Nobody wins in this, it's the nature of it all.

I'm not defending his approach, but I think I am trying to understand his point of view. I don't much like it, but...strangely, I feel like I understand it.

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Essay by Barbara Anderson: "What's in a Name?"

by AndersonsInfo in

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whats in a name?

posted on april 15, 2014 by barbara anderson http://watchtowerdocuments.org/whats-in-a-name/ .entry-meta-icons .entry-meta .

.entry-header one morning at bethel in 1989, after the usual text discussion before breakfast, there was an announcement to the staff about the legalization of jehovahs witnesses in poland.

sd-7

Hey, no problem. I'm just glad it got cleared up. I was wondering if I'd have to drive to New York just to see what the deal was for myself. Not that I was going to, but I've learned not to repeat anything I'm not entirely sure about. But I do appreciate your article and just how much effort you've put into discussing these issues. So...it's cool. I think everyone here does a pretty good job at fact-checking anything posted on the site--keeps us all on our toes.

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A farce elder here

by His Excellency in

just to share a little about me:.

i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

sd-7

Wait, so is this like, somebody who realizes slavery is wrong and then proceeds to be the most sadistic overseer on the plantation in the hopes that it will drive as many slaves as possible to try to escape? And then be the hangman waiting for when they're caught?

Wow. Well, it could work, but it really does enter a pretty morally dark gray area. How many people will suffer and remain on the inside with their suffering because of it?

Look, I'm the last person who can make a judgment on this guy. Look what I did to my wife, the woman I supposedly loved. If I'd been a decent guy, I'd have let her go and moved on with life instead of involving her in my departure from the JWs. Instead, I hurt her, and I have to live with that.

When people find out TTATT, they're faced with some hard moral choices. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to hate this guy. He's going to be an indecent man in an indecent world. It was men like him that helped me see something was wrong. And they'll hate him for it, as I hated men like that. But maybe, maybe, they'll start to understand that it's not just him, not just one elder, but the entity as a whole that's just like it, that props up and rewards people like him.

I couldn't and wouldn't support that sort of thing. But I think I do understand his point.

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Yahoo answers for the question: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses shun former members?

by DuvanMuvan in

why do jehovah's witnesses shun former members?.

loads of jws answered on this one.

kind of old but thought people would still wanna see it..

sd-7

Many of the responses on the site are verbatim quotes from Watchtower literature. It's as if they just cut and paste straight out of an article or the 'Keep Yourselves in God's Love' book. I think it's interesting to see so many of them blame the person being shunned--one person going so far as to say that the DF'd person is actually shunning JWs! Ha! Now that's delusional. What they do clearly goes above and beyond treating the former member as if he's a person of the nations, since JWs would still do business with and greet non-JWs. So they may as well not bother referencing 1 Corinthians 5 in the matter.

I tried responding to it, but for some reason it doesn't seem to have gone through. But I think enough informed people have posted thoughts on there. I hope.

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Do you have all your WT literature? If so why?

by KateWild in

many on this board are still in and have all the literature.

do you read all your books regularly?

do you have old magazines that you have underlined and still keep?

sd-7

In part, my wife put some of my old books on her bookshelf (the 'Proclaimers' book is one I've picked up to flip through from time to time). I still have my 'Organized' book, 'Reasoning' book, and some others. I had this moment when I was cleaning out my closet recently and found some of the old books. I got rid of old magazines but...the books I just found myself unable to throw out. I couldn't part with them for some reason.

If I had to come up with a reason, it'd be...because it was a part of my life. My mom got baptized when I was 2, and I finally got out of it officially a few months before I turned 28. I'm 31 now, four years later. That's just about my entire life, contained in those books. My history. I don't want to see it every day, and I probably don't even want to read it again, most of the time, unless it's for some specific reference about an issue that comes to mind. I just...feel like it should be there. It made me sad to think of throwing them away. I guess it's a lot like that time awhile back when I went to a meeting just to watch the kids while my wife gave a talk. There was that sadness, like visiting the grave of an old friend I was forced to destroy. As long as they're there, they serve as a reminder of the weight of sacrifice. Of the cost of having to do the right thing, even when those I loved most would never believe in me or in the rightness of my path. The price of ending a war that had already cost too much and was started for all the wrong reasons.

I can't avoid JW books without divorcing my wife, anyway. So what's the point? Maybe if that day ever comes and our marriage does actually end, maybe then I'll get rid of the remaining books. I suppose I'm still tethered to it all, so it would be a vain gesture.

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Essay by Barbara Anderson: "What's in a Name?"

by AndersonsInfo in

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whats in a name?

posted on april 15, 2014 by barbara anderson http://watchtowerdocuments.org/whats-in-a-name/ .entry-meta-icons .entry-meta .

.entry-header one morning at bethel in 1989, after the usual text discussion before breakfast, there was an announcement to the staff about the legalization of jehovahs witnesses in poland.

sd-7

I just want to mention that the sign "Read God's Word The Holy Bible Daily" was on the 117 Adams Street building, Sands Street side and it was painted over along with the other signs on the Adams Street complex because the society sold it. The name JW.ORG was not painted on it.

Well, that clears it up considerably. It would be kind of weird otherwise.

--sd-7