i was raised a witness, never baptised.
in my teens i told my family, i believe in god and the bible.
but i don't believe in armageddon or that jws are the only ones that would survive it.
Yes but then I'll get the story of Jesus. And Armageddon to sort it all out ect ect.
Nevertheless, it is a good way to start breaking it to them slowly, that I am questioning the existance of God. I just have to do it in a way I am not offering myself up to be preached at.
i was raised a witness, never baptised.
in my teens i told my family, i believe in god and the bible.
but i don't believe in armageddon or that jws are the only ones that would survive it.
Hahah like picture
MM I don't want to give them any leveridge to get the bible or worse WT out. They know I am familiar with the bible and JW's so I can't play daft unfortunatly.
Telling them how I feel, that is the problem. I just can't get the words out. Daft isn't it. I think it would be easier to tell them I have committed a henious crime.
i was raised a witness, never baptised.
in my teens i told my family, i believe in god and the bible.
but i don't believe in armageddon or that jws are the only ones that would survive it.
Im not sure if I understand the difference between agnostic or athiest or non-belief or disbelief.
By Athiest I mean I do not believe in the God that humans have created, that interferes in our world. If agnostic means I accept the possibility that somewhere there may be a supernatural being that started everything. Then maybe in that way I am agnotic.
The point of my non-belief is that none of this matters. I spent so long thinking about it, but now I am beyond that and feel free and happy in the knowledge I do not need to know or even think about it any more. I am happy with my lack of belief.
Fair few comments here that I shouldn't tell family if it would cause an upset. Perhaps I could say that I didn't believe in the bible, without actually saying I didn't believe in God. But where would that get me, circular arguement, they would just start showing me how the bible is Gods word... back to where I started.... grrr
i was raised a witness, never baptised.
in my teens i told my family, i believe in god and the bible.
but i don't believe in armageddon or that jws are the only ones that would survive it.
Firstly, I don't know why I don't believe in God. Like a lot of witnesses I spent a lot of time investigating other religions and the bible after I left, I also read Hawkins book and a few others. But there was nothing in particular that lead me to this conclusion. I just don't believe in God like I don't believe in Santa Claus.
If my family could accept that I'm not interested in their religion, that would be the end of the matter. But every time I visit they start up with this little scripture, that thought for the day.
I always keep my mouth shut, read whatever crap they ask. I even quote scriptures right back at them. Sometimes I even get into theoretical debates that I don't even believe in,To some extent they relish this, always thinking I'm gonna come around soon.
My head screams bbbbuuulll ccccrrraaappp but I never say anything. After 15 years, I have had enough, I just want to "come out". I don't know if I can though
i was raised a witness, never baptised.
in my teens i told my family, i believe in god and the bible.
but i don't believe in armageddon or that jws are the only ones that would survive it.
To clarify, I am an Athiest - no belief at all whatsoever.
I haven't exactly lied to my family, I just haven't told them the truth. I can't tell them and I don't even know why. I know they will be quite hurt but then at least they will stop getting the biblel out at me, because I simply don't believe it. My family won't shun me thank goodness. But it may make things a bit awkward.
Arte
saw this article on line in yesterday's daily mail.
it's a bit of a worry to say the least.. .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231563/is-britain-brink-financial-armageddon.html.
No he is right, the Daily Mail is the only thing on earth I would rate lower than in value than WT publications.
I work a a benefit processor. The amount of new claims are reducing rapidly. I think things are on the up. It's still bad, but it will get better. It always does.
Arte
i was raised a witness, never baptised.
in my teens i told my family, i believe in god and the bible.
but i don't believe in armageddon or that jws are the only ones that would survive it.
I was raised a witness, never baptised. In my teens I told my family, I believe in God and the bible. But I don't believe in Armageddon or that JWs are the only ones that would survive it. Since then, obviously my family have tried to bring me into the fold, with one circular arguement after another. I think they were somehow comforted by the fact that I said I believed in God and the Bible, as though it was giving them some sort of hope.
But now 15 years later, I have had enough. I want to come clean - tell them I don't believe in God (in the sense of a God which should be worshiped) and I do not believe the bible to be inspired by God.
Now bearing in mind the UK is a very secular country, why do I feel like I'm about to admit to being a homosexual or something. I'm gonna die anyway, according to them, so why is it so difficult. I have been thinking about this for a good few month.
Any comments.
if there is a sb (supreme being), there really isn't any logical necessity that it would conform in any manner to what we call "good".
it simply isn't a requirement, and yet for religious people it simply must be that god is good.. .
i wonder if it's love or fear, which causes people to cling to this idea.. .
I think the idea of God being good is a fairly recent idea on the scale of things. Almost every culture had some form of supreme being, but he/she was a God to be feared, not loved. If there is a God, I don't think he/she would even possess human qualities. I think God is far beyond our tiny minds, existing as neither good or bad. I personally think Christians have made God "good" as the powerful, angry, vengful God of the Old testament, that murders and destroys, does not fit with the merciful and forgiving God they would rather talk about.
yes slacks and pants on women are evil.....the first step to wanting to be elders or even worse lesbians!
so the watchtower in it's wisdom put a strict bad on women wearing pants at meetings, even in siberia or alaska where it is freezing cold....i qoute the governing body who said: "we need to show these sisters who wears the pants in our congregations...literally.".
in the 70's when it was all the rage, my mum tried wearing slacks to the hall....."go and get changed" said the sister who studied with her.
Hahah I'm just ammused by slacks /pantihose and dress pants.
pants are nickers/ underwear in UK Englsih.
Just for some reason imagined a congregation in their underwear. Oh my
i have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo had it!!
my daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess.
he lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future.
I know how fustrating it is. I am 32 and have lived with my partner for 3 years, but when we visit relatives we can still not stay over night, neither will relatives stay over at our house. But I don't think it is worth getting worked up about. I doubt many dubs would allow it. At least they are willing to have some form of relationship with your daughter, and getting angry about it makes you look worse. Like others have said, this is not just a dub thing, and if you knew this was gonna happen then why not just book a hotel. Life is too short to get angry about the unavoidable.
As for you daughter and partner still being virgins... yeh right. I don't mean that offensive, it just human nature. A heard of wild elephants can't stop the passion of young teenagers.
Arte ;)
