Along the lines of what O4G was saying, I am the partner of a JW and I have to say that the only reason they want you to go is for you to someday become an active JW. I know that sounds strong, but it's true. The reason being is that this IS NOT a tolerant religion. They believe everyone else is wrong and that NO OTHER religion or belief system is correct, that theirs is the only way. I would also say it is a very bad sign that she is interested in going back. You need to learn as much as you can about this religion before you get any more serious with her.
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Understanding the family issue!
by ry.hans inmy partner has been diss-fellowshiped and out of jw stuff for just over ten years.
its my understanding that family and providing is an important key to any religon.
so why is it she classed as a bad association if she is family.
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To Angel Eyes & Other WT Apologists
by snowbird init has come to my attention that a much-beloved poster on this forum has been hurt by the insensitivity shown toward her account of how badly she was treated by the wt.. i realize this is a place where are all welcome, and barring any posting guidelines violations, we are free to air our views without fear of any backlash.. however, please keep in mind that most posters here - yours truly being one of them - view the wt in a negative light.
with all the evidence out there pertaining to its deceitfulness, how can anyone view it otherwise?.
i reached out to you, angel eyes, because i sense that you need a friend.
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Ok, my last post on this topic. I haven't been here long, so from an outsider's view, I think the way to keep the people who bug you from highjacking threads is to ignore them. When AE posts some JWisms, I generally ignore them because I can assume her POV isn't going to teach anything new. When Outlaw (who cracks me up) responds, I skim over it because I generally know it'll involve cartoon poop. If you don't give the offensive attention, they lose their potency. Period. Done.
Now, also from an outsiders view, I would have to disagree with moderators taking over idea. It seems to me if they start to edit the board so, it's not much better than what the WTS does - controls information. At the very end of the day, you exJWs know you are in very good company because the vast majority of posters here are ex or non JWs. Don't let a couple of banshees ruin everything for you.
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To Angel Eyes & Other WT Apologists
by snowbird init has come to my attention that a much-beloved poster on this forum has been hurt by the insensitivity shown toward her account of how badly she was treated by the wt.. i realize this is a place where are all welcome, and barring any posting guidelines violations, we are free to air our views without fear of any backlash.. however, please keep in mind that most posters here - yours truly being one of them - view the wt in a negative light.
with all the evidence out there pertaining to its deceitfulness, how can anyone view it otherwise?.
i reached out to you, angel eyes, because i sense that you need a friend.
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Just another thought on Brinjen's anecdote, just to TRULY gauge human response, how many people do you think would have crushed their own statue had the big boss told them too? I bet just as many if not more. Just saying, for myself personally, I would've felt more comfortable crushing my own sculpture than someone else's.
This topic also reminds me that with all people we can stand to be a little kinder. I know as a non-Dub with questions I've had some pretty harsh - I would say at times unkind - responses to my explained situations. I try to take it with a grain of salt because I know many on here have had such intensely bad experiences with the religion and that's where they're acting from. In general everyone's been kind and informative though.
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Other Points From the Annual Meeting
by jabberwock ini realize that the latest clarification of the generation teaching has been discussed quite a bit on this thread.. but i think that there are at least two other important points from the annual meeting that have been, for the most part, overlooked:.
1. the weeds of matthew 13 are not the churches of christendom, but apostates.. 2. showing love to our neighbors involves more than just the preaching work.
(thanks for mentioning this rubadub).
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OTWO - I guess I meant when I try to say, "See, you weren't doing this for 100 years. It's an obvious call to Christians. Preaching ISN'T the only work you should be doing." And I'll just be brushed off.
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JWs--A Religion No One Really Cares About
by minimus init's funny that when you seperate yourself from the cult, you see very few people care about the witnesses.
as jws we were always told how the governments were going to turn on religion and then try to obliterate us and how jehovah would step in, in the nick of time, and save all of his people.
how delusional!.
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I always love that false hope stuff. Let's see there's...
- False hope in science
- False hope in worldly governments
- False hope in worldly organizations
- False hope in pagan gods
What else? You all would know better than me. But it always kills me when it's pointed out I'm having false hope in something.
Me: "Wow! Man just landed on the moon!
My JW: "So? You're putting false hope in science."
Me: "No I'm not, I think it's cool they landed on the moon."
JW: "Ummhmm, classic case of false hope in science."
Me: "What does that even MEAN? They literally landed on the moon. That's cool. Not hopeful."
JW: "Just as I said, false hope in science."
Me: "ARGH."
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Other Points From the Annual Meeting
by jabberwock ini realize that the latest clarification of the generation teaching has been discussed quite a bit on this thread.. but i think that there are at least two other important points from the annual meeting that have been, for the most part, overlooked:.
1. the weeds of matthew 13 are not the churches of christendom, but apostates.. 2. showing love to our neighbors involves more than just the preaching work.
(thanks for mentioning this rubadub).
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Sorry! Meant to say "because the world would soon END"
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Other Points From the Annual Meeting
by jabberwock ini realize that the latest clarification of the generation teaching has been discussed quite a bit on this thread.. but i think that there are at least two other important points from the annual meeting that have been, for the most part, overlooked:.
1. the weeds of matthew 13 are not the churches of christendom, but apostates.. 2. showing love to our neighbors involves more than just the preaching work.
(thanks for mentioning this rubadub).
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Regarding #2: I remember I was SHOCKED when I learned that a religious organization performed NO humanitarian/charity work, and even more SHOCKED when I learned that if they did it was for JWs only and the reason they didn't do it for others was because the world would soon in. Such a thick feeling of not giving a crap exuded from that mindset that I knew this was something I didn't want to be involved in. If any of you have it, I would L-O-V-E to see the scriptural basis for that one.
The even better, richer part of this, if it is in fact a change to the aforementioned practice and JWs actually start working in soup kitchens, etc., is that none of the active will care that this policy changed and they'll just see it as new light or as nothing that different at all. That's the part that drives me nuts. There's nothing complicated or scripturally confusing about whether you should help those in need (as compared to the 1914 business, generation argument or the #1 mentioned in this post) whether they are your faith or denomination. It shouldn't have taken them 100 years to figure this out, but I'm sure it will just be noted and moved on from. Ugh.
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Why Can't We Accept The Jehovah's Witness Religion For Its Good & Bad?
by minimus ini know many catholics, protestants and jews who practice their religion and even if they don't believe or accept everything that is stated, they still are content to be members of their faith.
basically, many people don't accept their churches 100% but still happily remain.. exjw's on the other hand view the witness religion as totally horrible.
we are not like other religions.
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I was going to say - from a never a Dub perspective - that it's how they chastise and curse every other religion that the JW religion cannot be accepted for their good and bad. I remember the first time I saw (not in JW lit) that false prophets would be condemned to hell, and that these false prophets included Jews, Hindus, etc. It's repulsive and I happen to think God is smarter than that.
I still feel that's a very big part of the problem I have with the religion. HOWEVER...in light of what a few others bring up, I would say that the blood doctrine, shunning, pedophile hiding, family destroying and the other matters that actually do harm to human life are the biggest reasons they can't be simply left alone to exercise their beliefs. Especially when these actions affect innocents like children ... and I'd even stretch it as far to say the bad doctrines affect trusting JWs. It's very irresponsible on the GBs behalf and morally reprehensible.
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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009
by daniel-p infrom a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
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In 1994/95 did they try to make another explanation besides that they just didn't know? And so this new explanation is like Dissed said "They are just passing the baton like in a race. Its all one team of anointed generationites." Does this mean that they will have to change the teaching on the 144,000? Isn't that a literal number to them?
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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009
by daniel-p infrom a little bird... .
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Right, the generation teaching and how they are changing it. I think, but could be mistaken, that the original teaching was that anyone alive in 1914 would live to see the beginning of Armageddon, or the Great Tribulation. I know this changed a bit in 1995, and now I suppose it's changing again? I also don't get when people talk about annointed up to 1935. If I were a R&F I would probably just go along with it because it's so complex, IMO.