I always seemed to be offending someone's conscience. Usually it want's most people though, just a few of the ones that "mattered," like the PO (at the time). I was working at a YMCA camp where NOTHING regligious EVER took place. Nobody else seemed to care in the least, but this guy sure did. Then there was the issue of the goatee. People will find just about anything to pick at. Oh yeah, I didn't wear a suit jacket to the hall either.
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Did YOU Disturb The Consciences Of Others?
by minimus inthe watchtower is always saying how we have to watch everything we do or say because we just might offend somebody's conscience and lord knows we wouldn't wanna do that!.
did you find yourself offending the consciences of others?.
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Movie - The Island
by Mickey mouse injust watching it now and realising why it freaked me out 3 years ago just like the truman show did.
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I loved that movie! Really made me think. Read 1984 next
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My best weight loss tip!
by Newborn in...leave a sect and your marriage at the same time.... i lost 5 kilos in a month.
tee hee.
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My weight loss secret...eat less and move more. Unless it's pizza. For some reason I can eat half a pizza right before bed and still have either gained nothing or lost a pound
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Loyalty (I too have an ex wife), intelligence, supportiveness, and a great sense of humor.
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I'm in!
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Security is a pain...
by Cthulhu in...in the ass.
i like the fact that i have a debit card company that is up on keeping my money safe.
but have any of you had the experience of buying lunch...or should i say trying to.. .
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...in the ass. I like the fact that I have a debit card company that is up on keeping my money safe. I really really do. But have any of you had the experience of buying lunch...or should I say trying to.
I do a lot of business on ebay, selling mostly. I accept paypal as it is quick and easy. Because of how much I sell, I have a pretty nice balance on my card, and I use it most of the time, which eliminates the need to carry cash. You all know how it is. So, I walked next door to the party store where I intended to buy a soda and a couple of hot dogs. You know, kind of a low income and penny pincher sort of lunch for the Tuesday before I get my next biweekly paycheck. The gentlemen, who has a rather odd shaped head, turns to me and says "it's declined."
"Huh?"
"It says 'declined.'"
"That's impossible. Try it again.
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"Declined."
*Sigh* "Shit. How bout one more time, please?"
I walked out leaving the dogs and soda on the counter, feeling like an ass for not even being able to pay for food I'd handled. They'd have to throw it away. Next time they'll probably make me run the card before picking out my items.
So I drive to a nearby gas station when my manager told me he'd had the same trouble a week or two ago, but that it was only that store that it seemed to happen at. Was denied at the gas station too, so the first thing this paranoid mind of mine kept thinking, as I'm waiting to get ahold of paypal's customer service, was "what if this is like in one of those movies where the guy 'they' are after isn't really who they think he is, and they freeze his accounts and run him through several high speed car get aways, rape his family, burn down his house, and throws him in prison until he is lying on his death bed and then rush in at the last minute to declare him innocent?"
So I'm on hold for more than the remainder of my break. I go through all nine levels of hell. I speak to an Indian and then a very nice (and understandable) American who was much more sympathetic of my frustrated laments. She sent me to debit card tech support (who knew?)
"Hi, my name is Karen. Can I get your phone number?"
"I have an account number, why can't I just give you that?"
"We need your phone number for security reasons."
I give it to her.
"Thank you sir. What's your email address?"
I give it to her.
"Well, sir, it looks like your account has been suspended for security reasons. Let me go over a couple of recent purchases."
And then it hit me. I had been to Walmart the night before and made three one hundred dollar cash withdrawls, which, because they don't let you take out more than one hundred at a time, required three small purchases in rapid succession. I explained this to her before she even mentioned any of them in detail, which confirmed that it was me.
"Well, I have reset your account. You should be able to make purchases now."
I go over to the first store I'd tried for lunch. I was going to offer to pay for the food they had thrown away, but saw that it was still sitting right where I'd left it, collecting parasites and peoples sneezes for well over a half an hour. So I offered to pay for them, if the damn card would finally work. He ran the card, the machine took its precious time, kept us all in suspense, and finally gave its almighty approval. I thanked the men for their patience and understanding, bought a celebratory soda for my boss, and enjoyed eating my cold, parasite infested, and, surely, snot caked hot dogs as I recounted the experience to you all.
I like the fact that they are looking out for me and my money, but it's just kind of a pain. I could have been stranded in the middle of nowhere. I could have needed a tow. I might have been buying gas. I could have been paying a hooker. What if it wasn't just lunch? It really all helps to make the point I've been working up toward. You see, this illustrates just how imperfect this wicked system is. Would you like the chance to be part of a world that not only has security failures, but no need for security systems at all? Allow me to share a scripture with you that will show you how sure a promise that is...
Just kidding about that last part. Thanks for reading.
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Exit Aid...
by Cthulhu insounds like a constipation medication doesnt it?.
in all seriousness, though...i'm helping a young gal who just told the elders taht she doesn't want to be involved anymore, has lots of doubts, and isn't sure what she believes at all.
we've been very close for several years and i have made it clear that she will have my support (and a few others who have left also made this point) and that she will not have to go crawling back jsut because nobody will help her.
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Sounds like a constipation medication doesnt it?
In all seriousness, though...I'm helping a young gal who just told the elders taht she doesn't want to be involved anymore, has lots of doubts, and isn't sure what she believes at all. We've been very close for several years and I have made it clear that she will have my support (and a few others who have left also made this point) and that she will not have to go crawling back jsut because nobody will help her. They arent going to beat her like that, we will be sure of that. But as far as the information, the mental part of it, I'm not sure what's best for her at first. She has a lot of doubts, so I am sure Crisis or Captives would be great for her. On the other hand, I wish I had read Combatting Cult Mind Control sooner as this would have helped me to deal with the things I was feeling as it explained why people feel these thing as well as how to deal with those emotions and reactions. Granted, everyone is different, but I was hoping some of you might share what books were most helpful for you and why.
And now for the rant!!! This is pissing me off like you wouldn't believe! She didn't say she doesn't believe any of it, or that she wants to be an apostate. She just said she has doubts...many of them at that. I'm as aware as anyone here is that this doesn't matter to them, that it's all just a game of which side of the fence are you on, but it's so ridiculous. They even did a special local needs on apostacy the very day after they talked to her, to "lovingly make the point." Again, none of that surprises me, nor does the fact that they will more than likely disfellowship her, but just think about it: this poor girl is being held to a decision she made at the ripe and wise age of 11 or 12. What a fucking joke. She's not even been disfellowshipped and she's already been kicked out of her house. They all know we still talk, so I'm at the center of blame and it's been said that we are both possessed by the Devil (I was actually kinda proud of that. not just a demon, but the Devil himself) All of my friends and I, upon leaving, felt like killing ourselves, and thought extensively about it for some time. This gal has already tried to within the last year. Don't those shit head cretins know what the hell they are doing to people? Does it make them feel like BIG MEN to pick on a teenage girl? And the only place she has to stay at the moment is AT A WITNESSES HOUSE! That's going to be really helpful. It makes me sick that they do this to people and it makes me particularly ill to think that I supported treating people this way in times past.
Alright, glad thats out of my system. I could go on, but to what end? Thanks for reading and please, if you've any advice, feel free to share, as it will be appreciated. My thanks in advance.
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My Days Are Numbered
by Cthulhu inso i have been talking to one or two still active witnesses since i faded and have been enjoying those very few true friends i had there when we have spoken.
one of these dear individuals, however, has just recently made it known to a couple of the elders that she has a lot of doubts and isn't entirely sure what she believes anymore.
they linked me to her situation and started flinging the "apostate" word around in regard to me.
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I realize that...but it will make no difference in how I feel about myself. And I know there are three individuals that I still can trust, as we've addressed this possibility in the recent past (yesterday)
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My Days Are Numbered
by Cthulhu inso i have been talking to one or two still active witnesses since i faded and have been enjoying those very few true friends i had there when we have spoken.
one of these dear individuals, however, has just recently made it known to a couple of the elders that she has a lot of doubts and isn't entirely sure what she believes anymore.
they linked me to her situation and started flinging the "apostate" word around in regard to me.
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KS and Minimus...I kind of had those same thoughts.
Keep in mind, I'm not terribly worried about it. After all, what difference does it make? It's more just a formalized note of finality. In any case, I was rather proud of myself, getting a special local needs thrown together at the last minute AND that it made them stay later than usual. My highest achievement involving the organization to date!
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My Days Are Numbered
by Cthulhu inso i have been talking to one or two still active witnesses since i faded and have been enjoying those very few true friends i had there when we have spoken.
one of these dear individuals, however, has just recently made it known to a couple of the elders that she has a lot of doubts and isn't entirely sure what she believes anymore.
they linked me to her situation and started flinging the "apostate" word around in regard to me.
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So I have been talking to one or two still active Witnesses since I faded and have been enjoying those very few true friends I had there when we have spoken. One of these dear individuals, however, has just recently made it known to a couple of the elders that she has a lot of doubts and isn't entirely sure what she believes anymore. They linked me to her situation and started flinging the "apostate" word around in regard to me. Aparently there was a special and lengthy local needs part last night regarding apostacy. The CO is coming next Tuesday. Anyone care to guess how long it is until they contact me "to talk?" How much time do I have before I'm announced?