Posts by Butterflyleia85

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alcoholism a clear and present danger for JWs and XJWs?

by quietlyleaving in

i was having an interesting discussion with an xjw recently and we both knew of elders who were alcoholic but who were allowed to keep their privileges because their condition was described as a disease.

the elder i knew was also spotted in a drunken state on a couple of occasions.

he kept his privileges.

Butterflyleia85

Wow I remember Alcohol being a killer for me... as soon as I hit 21 I was drinking.

The trap was getting so drunk I lost all my control and committed a sin. I did this once and the elders gave me counsel and I was public reproved.

I loved alcohol so much because of the ability to let go of my "self control"... I was more out going, I felt confidant, and I felt I was in a dream. Sometimes I would get my dreams mixed up with what was really going on.

But I abused it... I realized also even though you feel you are safe and nothing will happen, the consequences and risk you are taking is not worth it, whether you realize it or not it does happen you are not safe whether it be yourself or your surroundings you are not safe! Especially now that I have allot to live for why take that chance...

It didn't take much longer to learn. But the key is I learned... I can set limits for myself that is what makes me responsible. My fiance and I can enjoy drinking with out the consequences... just be smart and grown up about it...

What I feel makes an alcoholic is someone dependent of alcohol... Someone that doesn't set limits...

But I believe we all have the ability of self discipline.

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the biggest JW facebook group just vanished

by Aussie Oz in

Butterflyleia85

Hopefully this larger group gets shut down also. In fact I think we should all join this group so it will be infiltrated with apostates

I'm in on that one!!! hahahaha

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A great Christmas present for any JW ...

by sacolton in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o50_zlmnjqy.

Butterflyleia85

Hahaha That's hilarious! How corny.

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

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my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

Oh and just to add to the story. I was hanging out with good friends up until I wanted to meet new ppl from new halls and my sister started secretly dating this guy that had a DF brother. That is when I meet the "bad JWs". But I wanted to date and have my first kiss. Haha wow yeah I didn't have my first kiss til I was 21. Ha I heard rumors guys found me intemidating, ha yeah even among JWs if you find the right crowd you can find risky JWs. I went two hours away to hang out with fun friends and hot guys. Geez have I learned alot since then.

Anyways back to the Elders. This Elder that got DFed, wow I could never have pictured it. He seemed like he had the picture perfect family. Two sons one that never dated though and wanted to go to Bethal... He never made it in, I think his 26. The other married to a pioneer and was an Elder at 27 maybe a little older but not to much. And a daughter that was 19, my sister's age married a guy I was interested in, who was 34! Wow. But still all his kids never made a mistake and always dressed and acted like angels. They all were homeschooled too.

OMG and when I was faced by the Elder I felt like scum of the earth. He looked at me like I was the sins of all sins. He just was flabagasted and confused "how" "why" I just seemed insane to him like I must have been the skankiest person ever. OMG. I will explain...

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

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my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

dig692, yeah it does... kinda not fair.

Open mind, Wow really so is that why maybe it was ancounced he (Aaron that I mentioned in post) had to step down from being an elder (bout a month ago I found out) and then just today I found out he was DFed.

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

I'm back curious what ppl wrote on this post I made.

I need to clear some things... (my past post would explain but I will reexplain on this post)

I'm 24 engaged happy I found out about the truth about the truth as ppl here call it.

My fiance is not a JW.

My close family that still talks to me is my mom grandma and sister which are JWs.

I was dfed twice and was thinking about getting back in a couple months ago until I found this site.

I dfed at 22 and reinstated 23, January and then dfed again May. I been DFed over a year now and am doing pretty good this time.

I was laid off from my job but I been looking for on and love having the time to research the religion.

I still hear about old JW friends and still they sometimes send a hello through IM, Facebook, and email.

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

There is three things that gets me.

One how is it right I got two family members as my elders?

And how is it that his blood related brother (from my other hall) got DF and then reinstated 6 months faster then me, when I wrote three letters and did all I could to get in? Is it cause he is older and has kids and a wife he chatted on and is now married to the other woman?

Will he be more privledged then me sense he was an elder?

And ha now who's going to be my new elder... gees with all these new elders the whole world might as well no my business!

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

jw
friends

my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

straight shooter I will I just wrote a long one and half is deleted and now I have to get off here. (sigh) I will try and finish it when I can.

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

Aaron and his son Mike and Davison.

Aaron was the one that said he didn't believe me when I was trying to fend for myself so I wouldn't get back in the second time.

It's crazy cause I use to love Brother Aaron, he was cool, he was my mom's age and grew up with our family. And his kids were my sister and my age. He had two boys and one girl. I thought Mike was hot and the girl was my little sister's age. Wow and now Brother Aaron has to suffer being DF like me.

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Wow Found out one of my Elders was DFed

by Butterflyleia85 in

jw
friends

my mom called and i found out one of my elders just got dfed.. i started out with three elders at the west hall and moved to a new congregation, the south hall (really an old one from when i was 16 and younger) while i was publicly reproved for the first time.

my mom decided it would be best for me and my sister to have friends our age locally to hang out with.

well we did the move and i hated the hall even more because i thought the friends their were cool and would be supportive but found it to be even more stuck up then the other hall.

Butterflyleia85

Not fair it didn't pull up all my post.