Peacedog, I might take you up on that! I never actually compared the two Bibles personally I just relied on my grant aunt's word and this sister at the hall that only used King James Bible... they said there was no difference in the bible except the language. But yes that would be nice to see old english bible...
(btw I do hope I didn't offend you on here, the above statement was my sense of humor, just to lighten up the tense subject)
(Matt. 6:9-10)
(Rev. 5:9-10)
Rev. 7:9
9 After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.
(Rev. 14:3)
Matt. 5:5
5 "Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.
Ps. 37:11
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
Is. 45:18
18 For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: "I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.
(Rev. 21:3)
...so there is some scriptures I found... BUT I do find what you are saying... as far as "earth" could it also be symbolic when it is used in the Revelation book, sense most of that book isn't taken literal?? Or I also see the opposite happening could it be that the spiritual relm is coming to the literal earth??
Yes, it was a prediction. A prediction for Armageddon. You said "I still don't understand why 1914 is off". It's "off" because Armageddon didn't happen. In fact nothing happened in October 1914.
I agree nothing happened in Oct. 1914 but in my life as a JW I was always understood that it was the beginning of "the last days".
But the Bible had foretold the opposite—that the unprecedented war of 1914 to 1918 would highlight the beginning of "the last days." (2 Timothy 3:1) (ce Chapt.18 page 227 par. 31)
I never understood how they predicted the date really because nothing major happened in that year thus I never understood why it was off if it was a invisiable even that was in heaven... so I asumed it must had be how the dates was calculated in the Bible... again trusting in my grandpa (passed away 1999) and all other teachers of the Bible at the halls of JW.
Hell -
Rev. 20:14,15
14 And death and Ha´des were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire.
15 Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire.
The wicked or ones not found written in the book of life is going to be destroyed. "lake of fire" is destruction
Luke 16:19-31 isn't literal.
If taken literally, it would mean that those enjoying divine favor could all fit at the bosom of one man, Abraham; that the water on one’s fingertip would not be evaporated by the fire of Hades; that a mere drop of water would bring relief to one suffering there. Does that sound reasonable to you? If it were literal, it would conflict with other parts of the Bible. If the Bible were thus contradictory, would a lover of truth use it as a basis for his faith? But the Bible does not contradict itself. (rs page 174 par. 5)
The "rich man" represented the Pharisees. (Luke 16:14) The beggar Lazarus represented the common Jewish people who were despised by the Pharisees but who repented and became followers of Jesus. (Luke 18:11; John 7:49; Matt. 21:31,32) Their deaths were also symbolic, representing a change in circumstances. Thus, the formerly despised ones came into a position of divine favor, and the formerly seemingly favored ones were rejected by God, while being tormented by the judgment messages delivered by the ones whom they had despised. (Acts 5:33; 7:42) (rs page 175 par.1)
It's absurd to believe that the Son of God would teach his disciples using Pagan concepts and doctrines. But that's exactly what you and the WT$ would have people believe.
The Reasoning book goes on to say: "But the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the devil, which name means "Slanderer"), the one whom Jesus Christ called "the father of the lie."
Let me get this very clear! I am not Jehovah's Witness and they don't want me claiming that anyways. I would NOT have people believe anything... they believe what they want to believe! I personally go with the idea that Hell is not literal because of the scriptures I found...
And for one you are a putting words in peoples mouths JW do NOT beleive Son of God teaches his disciples Pagan concepts and doctrines! It's affensive and insulting, my grandma and mother and alot of good hearted people are JWs. They are just ignorant. And you are being disrespectful when you say such a thing!
Can we start again... with a positive decussion on the matter. I am a nice person really but I do stand up for good people and for understanding people.
Respectfully
butterfly
