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  Do you desire eternal life?

  by sacolton in

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  Going offtopic here, but I feel like in a hair splitting mood.

  Technically eternity doesn't guarantee that everything conceivable and unconceivable will happen. You might wait for one googol years, and still you won't have your purple unicorn, then the googols of years just pass away, and you're still walking, waiting for your coloured friend to arrive (a case similar to you-know-what). Just like you might toss a regular coin a thousand times, and it lands every time on head. Given eternity throws the equations off the charts, and for all intents and purposes the probability of any given event will be 100%, yet it's still a thought away from reaching 100%.

  We don't have to wait for eternity to arrive to us to have fun with it, we have it at our hands. PI for example is an irrational number that goes on forever. Given its infinite length, you may conclude that PI has hidden in itself a song... or a poem... or the answer to life, the universe and everything (oh wait, I'm pretty sure PI contains 42). Good hunting
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  Do you desire eternal life?

  by sacolton in

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  I'm with awildflower on this, she's perfectly right. Either as a spirit, or human body, but these 80 years are just too short. I don't want necessarily a perfect life, if my body would function like it does now I'd be happy. Toils and pain can have its rewards too (no, I'm not a masochist I'm just talking about a healthy appreciation of life as it is).

  However I wouldn't like to live in the JWs "paradise". Conformity, and unquestioning obedience is not something to be desired for an eternity.
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  "large but mainstream" brings what changes next?

  by agent zero in

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  in some other threads there has been talk of wether the organization will go large and mainstream or small and hard-core in the upcoming years.. in the past few years, the sunday public talk has been shortened, the bookstudy eliminated (at least as a seperate meeting night), #2 talks are down to a simple read-through, and a little longer ago pioneering hour requirements have been shortened.

  personally i would take these as signs of them going more soft and keeping a larger membership.. if this is indeed the case, what would you suspect of being cut off or changed next?.

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  How about having some form of "buyable field service time"? As in, you pay a fixed sum of money, then you can report the corresponding number of hours. They could justify this by saying that money will be used to fund special pioneers, so in effect you share in their field service time.

  They would shoot two (or even three) birds with one stone here: it would alleviate the WTS money problems, inflate the numbers, and give a break for those who aren't too hot for FS - therefore making it easier for them to stay in.
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  Baptist church takes a page from Watchtower

  by bluecanary in

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  I love the gut reaction of a normal human being to such statements: it's epic FAIL, worthy of failblog.org.
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  Am I going to get destroyed by God for buying Girl Scout Cookies?

  by greenhornet in

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  You'll be destroyed by God only if you eat the cookies.

  How about if I chew, but don't swallow? We need a QFR on this very important issue.
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  Signing Publisher Record Cards

  by IMHO in

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  i know this doesn't apply to all countries.. however, is it a 'requirement'?.

  is it enforced?.

  is it optional?.

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  I know that if you are still in you ain't a gonna wanna do this, but for long time faders it could be a way of ensuring a kind of closure without DA etc.

  The problem is I suppose, that A**hole Elders could choose to interpret even that action as DAing.

  I was contemplating the same action in my thread started here, and quickly came to the same conclusion as you did: if you ask them to delete your records, they can interpret that as you're asking them not to be part of the organization, therefore it's DA.

  Also, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't necessarily comply with the request (you know, their compliance to state laws is only relative). If they would actually delete the records, you could come back several years later, and they would have nothing to prove you were a JW once.
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  JW christmas is just round the corner... ugh!

  by MisfitMeL in

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  yeah so the memorial is getting closer.. and even though my mum knows i am not attending the meetings, she keeps staying i should at least attend the memorial.... coz it's like special.. no idea how to get myself out of it.

  everytime she brings up the topic over the phone, i just mumble and say stuff like, yeah but i finish work late... i dunno where the kh is out here etc etc.

  i don't know why jws treat the memorial like it's christmas.

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  I only wish it was more like Christmas... it's just one more talk just like all the others, there's absolutely nothing special about it. JWs call "special" everything that is an inch different from their daily routine - like Special Assembly Day, that is the same as all the other meetings, just it's longer, and you may get speakers who you never saw before.

  If at least you could partake then maybe... it would be different. JWs do their best to bore their members to tears.
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  Have They Ever Given a Figure of How Many Are to Die at Armageddon?

  by cameo-d in

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  has wt ever published a number of how many they expect to die at armageddon?.

  will it bring the population down to the georgia guidestones advice for a manageable level?.

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  Hey dissed, sweet was right: JWs "don't judge" who gets slaughtered just like they "don't know" when the big A will hit. You gotta love wordplay, with it you can have the cake and eat it too.
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  My Testimony TV Program

  by Gordy in

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  just to let you know that on tuesday 16th march will be in london.. to record my testimony about being a jw etc.. i will be interviewed by doug harris of reachout trust.. .

  it will be for the satellite tv channel revelation/genesis tv.. the program is called "testimony time" its about 30 mins long.. not sure when they will broadcast it but here are the times the program is usually on.. .

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  You can watch Revelation/Genesis online on their site: http://www.revelationtv.com

  Revelation TV: http://www.revelationtv.com/watchrev.php

  Genesis TV: http://www.revelationtv.com/watchgen.php
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  Mind Control Cults

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  a non-jw pilot friend of mine who doesn't know i was a jw sent me this, with the title "mind control made easy!".

  it was eerie to watch this and recognize the similarities.

  it could be useful in helping a current jw who has doubts "get out", as it is not produced by an ex-jw.

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  Is it just me, or that singing @6:30 had the same style like the Kindom songs?

  TJ: that might worth a separate thread, but imo Russel was a sincere guy (with very wrong ideas, but he was sincere), but Rutherford in the other hand is very possible to have engineered the cult knowingly. Even as a JW I thought that guy looked too much like a power hungry corporate leader, not at all like a spiritual man.