i am calling all who are willing and able to partake at this years memorial.
the figure is growing and if reports are to be believed the numbers are made up mostly of experienced and long serving bros and sis!
the numbers for last year have not been as high as in 1967. with the youngest gb for decades!.
I don't think they need our help, it's not too far fetched to expect partakers reaching 12k anyhow.
Also as WTWiz said, the elders will judge if you truly are to be counted as annointed or not (so much for "our spirit witnesses with the Holy Spirit"), so that invalidates most of us. I think even the few of you who keep up the appearances so well would be in quite some pressure after partaking.
like alot of you here, i've been making jw's i know aware of yet another flip flop by their cult.. the response i got from one of them was amazing, she said "its just a new thought thats all" and also "well they ( the gb) have been teaching the same thing about the generation for some time, because they've always said that the anointed was included in the generation, whether the great crowd was meant to be included or not doesn't matter, so actual its all remained the same".
could someone please tell me the difference between "new light and "new thought"??
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Stephen, when you quote something I often check it in the Bible too (in my native language). Re James 1:17 the previous verse fits so excellent in here: James 1:16 "Don't be deceived, my dear brothers." 17 "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."
This passage confirms my thoughts, that JW's teachings changing "like shifting shadows" is a deception.
mrs mattieu went running out the doors with kids in tow (yes, i helped them get ready) in state of panic because tonights km part is all about showing respect for being taught by jehovah by being early to the meetings and how latecomers should be put before a judicial committee.
ok, made that last bit up.. i used to hate these parts on being late to the meetings as most would judge the late comers without fully understanding their work/family/health issues.. i dont have her km with me, but it mentioned that being late is something that should not be a regular occurrence and that we should be early to sit down and be ready to be taught by jehovah.. not sure if this article is particular to the australian km or being used worldwide, though will try and scan it through tomorrow.. mattieu...... .
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My cong had a habit of filling up seats from back to front, so in case you were late (the door being in the back of the room) you were forced to parade down the alley for all to see that you were late. No, that was not a "loving provision" from the elders, in fact many times it was stressed to fill up the front seats first, but who cares about that? These were mostly old folk, who all but had their name engraved on their seat. In fact I once heard a small argument that someone occupied her seat, how can he be so inconsiderate, she always sits there.
Not that i particulary care now, but this advice you mention in the KM is not bad. Of course there can always be some unforeseen stuff delaying you, but my observation was that most of the people who were late, were regularly late.
in the april 15 2010 watchtower, this quote stuck out to me like a sore thumb.. "this magazine has .
long been used by "the faithful and discreet slave" .
as the primary channel for dispensing increased .
A couple of years ago a JW asked in a group of friends, why is it that Jesus picked the Bible Students in 1919, when so many of their teachings were wrong? His answer was that they were the only group that was ready to make changes in their beliefs when old teachings are proven false. In the eyes of some the "new light" is in itself proof that they are God's chosen.
hello,im not sure this is the right place to post,anyway ive never been a jw but i have a very good friend that is,lately her mother has been telling me to go to the meetings and i went only once because after that ive been to research alot about them and i didnt like what i saw at all.. anyway the thing is that i asked my friend is the following.
"can you disfellowship jw with no problem?
"she said "yes,you just need to inform them".. i already knew the answer should be no cause they are shunned and this couldnt possibly be,.
she doesnt like ppl trying to modify her thoughts
This sounds all too familiar, it's the motto of my wife
As Heaven said, that's exactly what the society does, and they don't have any problem with that. The "Truth" as they call it can be summed up nicely in this: "anything the GB says". If you touch a doctrine that the GB teaches, you're questioning that "Truth". The doctrine in itself is not important, it can be changed at any time, but only by the GB, to keep up the "Truth".
So you're asserting that Christianity is the "true religion"? Which particular sect?
I think you missed my point proving that there is no "true religion" Your cherry-pick quote only shows my personal belief the Bible to be the word of God, nothing more.
http://e-watchman.com/.
"at this late hour millions of jehovahs witnesses have already been stumbled, including people once associated with jehovahs witnesses such as family or relatives of jehovahs witnesses, and there are those many millions who have partaken of a bible study with jehovahs witnesses but who did not commit to become jehovahs witnesses, who are now increasingly, often rabidly, hostile to the watchtower organization.
those legions of stumbled individuals, united through dozens of internet discussion boards and so-called "recovery" groups, are now unwittingly primed to do an evil work during the hour of darkness soon to engulf this wicked world.
I wish it was that easy... all we can hope is to open a few minds, and help some to cross the difficult time of post-cultism.
as mentioned by narkissos a couple months ago, doubting bro yesterday, and no doubt others.
is this where they are headed?
i say "evidently" it is.
If not by 2034, then sure by 2038, when the *nix systems will fail and bring about the End of the World (just like the Y2K bug did in 2000, remember?) Hey, it's at least as believable as "1 generation evidently means 2 generations".
from jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
roflmao, ooh God... they did it, didn't they? For a while I was thinking they can't be that stupid to actually publish that... yep they are.
They even have the nerve to say that it's "evident" that when Jesus said "generation" he actually meant two generations. Oh my... it's just too funny
This thought just occured to me: the jews were God's chosen people up until 70AD, right? Ok... but which group? The Pharisees? The Sadducees? Or other group? Funny that Jesus never said anything about that... although these two groups were opposite in many teachings. It's almost like... *gasp* all jews were God's chosen people, regardless of their doctrine.
This goes to show me that the whole arguments about God's real nature, the existance of a soul, Paradise on Earth and whatnot are just distractions from the real worship of God. He doesn't need the help of men telling others how to live, He gave us the Bible, that's all anyone needs.
