Posts by Jang

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Is this how they control people?

by Loki in

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24 years ago

if religion is, as marx said, the opium of the people, do the borg just have theirs at a better grade than most religions?

is that why it is so hard for people to "kick the habit"?

is that why we feel so strongly about the borg - reformed druggies being the most outspoken and all that?

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

Loki, it isn't just the WTS that people have problems throwing off ... it is any totalitarian type regime. This type of religion is truly detrimental to the individual's ability to become what they can be.

Have a quick look at my web page at the first three directories and you will see what I mean about this. That is the 'opium of the people".

A belief that leaves you free to discover your full potential and allows you to think things through for yourself is the healthiest place to be. Many don't realize that even Christianity was originally like that ..... the only precepts given by Jesus were to love God with your whole heart, mind and body and love your neighbour as yourself. One didn't have t o recite doctrine or follow certain set rules, only to love our brethren to the degree that we would not do anything that would hurt them.

JanG
CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
Personal Webpage: http://uq.net.au/~zzjgroen/

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Candid picture of Dave--aka 7-006

by VeniceIT in

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24 years ago

i found this picture and thought i should share!!!.

* .

ven

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

Don't panic Dave ..... 99.99999999% of us wouldn't know you from adam from that photo .... too blurry ...

But I love the shirt and background .....

JanG
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THE BATTLE FOR YOUR MIND

by Kent in

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24 years ago

very hypnotic and can generate an eyes-open altered state of .

six conversion techniques .

the third tip-off: techniques used .

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

I often recommend this to people who have been in some of the charismania churches, because they are really adept at using the hypnotic affect of hours of singing the same chorus ....

It applies to the borg too because they get you with monotone, boring lectures that have you nodding off within minutes or tuning out making yourslf even more vulnerable to their rhetorick.

I have it on my webpage under General Info about Cults ..... it gets a lot of hits
http://www.caic.org.au/general/batlmind.htm

JanG
CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
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The JDubs and Amway--a match made in hell......

by LDH in

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24 years ago

there are many perceptive posters here who have picked up on the mlm amway/jdub connection.. however, there are some who are not familiar with what we are talking about.

i thought for them it would be nice to list some similarities between the two organizations.. btw, amway has a new line of business, they're calling it quixtar.

so if you get approached for this, be aware it's just amway.

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

Amway has been on the list of cults for a long time now .....

http://www.caic.org.au/zcommerc.htm

JanG
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Report on Jacksonville losing WT convention

by expatbrit in

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24 years ago

city loses big convention .

by bill johnson, special to the daily record.

wash your car, it will rain.

23 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

So now we have the other big cult in Clearwater (Scientology Headquarters) and over the bridge we have the JW's - boththe biggests scammers this side of the black stump - and for that matter, the other side of the black stump as well. [8>]

JanG
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Brand New Religion

by BugEye in

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24 years ago

new religion.

i am hereby instituting a brand new religion.

we will from henceforth be called the church of wendy mommy.. we are a multifaceted organisation and will have our headquarters in tampa florida 'cause i know someone there and the weather is good.. we have 3 leaders or gods if you will.

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

Jigrigger, why should we clean our own fish. surely we can have our own pioneers to do that for us as a service to those of us who are specially annointed?

now, the bit about going fishing ... that appeals to me ..... especially if it is reef fishing!

JanG
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Brand New Religion

by BugEye in

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24 years ago

new religion.

i am hereby instituting a brand new religion.

we will from henceforth be called the church of wendy mommy.. we are a multifaceted organisation and will have our headquarters in tampa florida 'cause i know someone there and the weather is good.. we have 3 leaders or gods if you will.

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

sign me up jang

Already done Gro ..... welcome to our new religion ...

We will all get out heads together and see if we can work out what we are to do to earn our brownine points and licmb up the ladder of salvaiton

First thing you must remember that you are to climb the steps of the tallest building in Sydney on your knees doing 100 'hail freddies" on each step ..... and for further penance you must only have unleavend bread baked by the sisters and good wine for nutrition. That should keep you out of mischief until we can think of something else for you to do.

JanG
CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
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New Men's Support Site

by mikepence in

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24 years ago

i have opened an ex-jw men discussion board on my discussion site, here:.

http://earth.thewebservice.com/discuss/skins/powwow/viewforum.jsp?forum=12.

invite your friends, and come on in!.

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

I will add this to the letter I send out to newbies Mike.

It is good to see another forum for the guys ...

JanG
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Brand New Religion

by BugEye in

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24 years ago

new religion.

i am hereby instituting a brand new religion.

we will from henceforth be called the church of wendy mommy.. we are a multifaceted organisation and will have our headquarters in tampa florida 'cause i know someone there and the weather is good.. we have 3 leaders or gods if you will.

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

She would laugh at this, just ask her

You are right Bugeye. I can see the funny side of it. We made up something simalar when I was with Randy Wattters and his support group while in the USA in 1988. We had a great time deciding who would be in our 'trinity' What was missing in your new religion are all the doctrines and so on .... one can go beserk in catering for everyone's tastes

Thankyou Hopeful for your kind remarks .... I appreciate it ..... I know you found it hard to see all that in the chatroom the other day. Different people have different perceptions as I explained to you. If we were all the same it would be a very boring world .... It is just that you know me personally and they haven't had that "pleasure"

JanG
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WTBS Made a Huge Mistake!

by patio34 in

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24 years ago

i was tempted to write the wtbs today.

i'm reading a loaned copy (from my younger sister, 'waiting') of ray franz's "in search of christian freedom.

" it is a masterful point-by-point refutation of the wts doctrine.

24 years ago

Jang 24 years ago

I had the pleasure of meeting Ray and Cynthia too when I was in Atlanta in Nov 1986. My cousin and I drove over to see him and she was so impressed by his humility and love and their hospitality.

They had just moved into their home out of the van at that time.

JanG
CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
Personal Webpage: http://uq.net.au/~zzjgroen/

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