Heinrich Himmler and Ernst Rohm. I wonder if the guy who took this photo knew Rohm's fate was sealed the same way the camera man in the Minnesota game knew Wade Phillips time in Dallas was numbered?
miseryloveselders
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NFL week 9
by Dark Side inweek 8 standings:.
dp 10-3. ds 8-5. tec 10-3. ks 9-4. ms 8-5. sab 11-2. season to date win % .
dp 28-13 .680. ds 25-16 .610. tec 17-10 .630. ks 19-8 .704. ms 18-9 .667. sab 11-2 .846. nfl week 9. ny jets @ detroit.
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miseryloveselders
The black GB member is less qualified anyway. Jaracz was just a bleeding heart liberal who tried to be overly sensitive. Now that he's gone, hopefully the GB will reflect a more respectful conservative tone which may eliminate unnecessary black members and the so called need for color in the first place.
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Requirements for Watch Tower Reader
by garlic81 indoes anyone know the requirements that should be met for someone to have this privilege?
i have been added to the list and don't feel i meet the requirements..
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miseryloveselders
You also have to be a halfway decent reader. Depending on the Hall, some elder bodies won't allow foreign brothers read even if their broken english is pretty decent. Funny as ever when you sit in an elder meeting watching grown men argue whether or not a brother's broken english is acceptable for the meeting. Sometimes the arguing parties on the elder body come to an agreement, and let the foreign brother read at the Congregation Bible Study, but won't allow him to read at the "public" WT study. I'm thinking to myself, how is it that he can't read at the "public" WT study, when there's never anybody from the "public" there anyway? The WT study and public talk audience is still 99.9% the publishers from the congregation.
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Its the Hamitic Curse.
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Is exposing young children to religion a form of child abuse?
by Giordano inis religious indoctrination an assault on children, an assault on their capacity for individuation, curiosity, self-validation, and critical thinking skills?.
can a child with no religious training and traditions and no religious rules grow up to be an ethical person?.
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JW parents ease their conscience about forcing this cultish religion down the throats of their children by quoting the scripture in Deut. 6: 7: "....and you must inculcate them in your son and speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up." There is also another one that says something like, 'train up a boy in the way he should go, and when he grows old will not turn aside from it.' So they feel a biblical obligation to train (as in like a dog ;-) their children which is a rigorous and continuous process.
Good point. You know I would agree with the WT's use of this verse in the context of basic morals. In the context of all that unscriptural nonsense that the WT states is necessary for salvation though, this verse is used to support mental abuse and slavery. Inculcate the boy to recognize the GB as his master and only hope for salvation. Inculcate the boy to view facial hair as the determining factor regarding a person's spiritual maturity. Inculcate the boy to regard goals not including the GB, as unworthy. Inculcate the boy to view all nonJWs as future bird food. Inculcate the boy to fear God and worship God out of fear, but label it love. On and on and on.
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Is exposing young children to religion a form of child abuse?
by Giordano inis religious indoctrination an assault on children, an assault on their capacity for individuation, curiosity, self-validation, and critical thinking skills?.
can a child with no religious training and traditions and no religious rules grow up to be an ethical person?.
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Christopher Hitchens has a chapter on this subject, and its heluva chapter. I wish I had the book on me now to quote the points, but my mouth was wide open and I dang near injured my neck from nodding in agreement as I read the chapter.
The one point he made I remember though, where he asked what would be the result if religion was prohibited from being introduced to children until they became thinking adults capable of reason? If that was the case I don't think it would be a good thing for organized religion. Many a person on this message board would attest that had they not been born into this religion, and a couple JWs approached them, they would research and come to the conclusion that the WT is not for them.
Think about the mental anguish that youth who grow up in fundementalist religions experience. The WT likes to paint itself as better than that. They go, "Jehovah would never think of burning people for eternity!" Maybe He won't, but he'll open the earth up and swallow you whole along with your unbelieving parent and schoolmates. Or maybe He'll go for the fire from the sky technique figuring as humans we're already used to that sort of thing considering scud missles, and "shock and awe." At least he won't drown us all again, just maybe send a couple she-bears to chase us into the water and wait for us to drown. Or come back to shore and let the bears rip us apart like the young guy and his GF on the Discovery Channel. Seriously though, those kinds of thoughts are hell on the young impressionable mind. Its no wonder most of the people on this board experience depression, or a significant portion of the religious populution in this country in general.
Then there's the physical abuse. I've been meaning to research circumcision in depth lately, but haven't found the time, but some of the surface arguments from scientists lead me to wonder if ancient religions just had a weird hangup on sex organs and blood sacrifices. That hasn't changed after all these years considering religion's meddling in people's bedrooms and the WT's meddling in people's medical decisions. The WT even encourages breaking privacy laws regarding healthcare to supposedly keep the congregation clean and to spiritually assist the offender who got a blood transfusion. It's sick behavior, and this is what children are having forced upon them. It's sick!!!
During the Crusades and other religious themed atrocities, children and parents were encouraged to turn in their family for heresy, with the risk of torture and brutal death hanging over their heads. In 2010, JWs are encouraged to report to the elders any heresy now labeled apostacy, with the risk of disfellowshipping and losing one's family hanging over their heads. Its sick, there's no way to justify it. It's sick behavior. Its totalitarianism almost at its worst. Again, this is what children have to experience. I like another point Hitchens mentioned, where he said that a Despot may request your support, and thats one thing. However, its an entirely different monster when the Despot requests not just your support, but your mind, your body, your family, your life. Thats the WT is demanding of children born to JW parents. I've said it before, and I stand by it, that JWs having children today are guilty to a degree of child abuse by raising children in this cancer of a religion. Granted not all parents are so brainwashed or off balanced that a JW can't have a happy upbringing, but there are enough people in this world in general who shouldn't be allowed to breed, and there's enough JWs I've had the displeasure of knowing that should have never reared children.
Edit post: How could I mention physical abuse, and neglect to mention, the sexual abuse at the hands of fundementalist despots such as the Catholic Church, the LDS, and the WT? Can't believe I forgot. You can compare these religious organizations to organized crime because they aided and abetted the sexual abuse of children. They moved priests from one church to another, paid off this family to keep their mouths shut or at least end the media's coverage of the story prematurely. The WT had no intentions of changing their policy until the media put some heat on them. Otherwise you'd still have a bunch of pedophiles getting reappointed for positions of oversight. Wait a minute, what am I saying, its still happening!!! They're getting better though! Wait on Jehovah!!
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Reinstated Males Serving as Ass'y Attendants
by doinmypart inat the circuit assembly this weekend i noticed two guys reinstated within the last year were both serving as attendants.
i thought brothers had to be "exemplary" to do that kind of work.
have the requirements changed?
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Big freakin whoop, I got to walk around and act all that so I wouldn't have to pay attention at least. lol
LOL, thats the best part about that. I'd get up like I was on Her Majesty's Secret Service or something. Like, "pardon me, but I've got business to take care of." Then I'd proceed to shoot the breeze with different brothers at different duty tables. I'd go hang out with the cleaning department, or the brothers at the attendant table. I'd scope out the pretty sisters steppin in their pretty heels that they wore especially for my enjoyment. Being a male, does have its perks at times in this religion. I wonder if sisters in the cleaning departments, or lost and found, use excuses like we do so they can get up for a little while and hang out too?
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Reinstated Males Serving as Ass'y Attendants
by doinmypart inat the circuit assembly this weekend i noticed two guys reinstated within the last year were both serving as attendants.
i thought brothers had to be "exemplary" to do that kind of work.
have the requirements changed?
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miseryloveselders
They let any ol schmuck do the attendant thing. As long as you're baptized and breathing, they can use you. I don't think you have to be a Ministerial Servant. They try to make you feel special when you do it too. They have the meeting a month or so prior to the assembly. Its like an hour long meeting where you discuss scriptural reasons to give people the boot if necessary, or when to keep your cool. Or when to tell some young mother to take her not even a year old brat out in the lobby because she's disturbing the audience. Which I always thought didn't make sense because enough of the audidence was sleeping, and a crabby baby would keep many awoke. Another thing, every year I did the attendant thing, I was supposed to have a small flashlight, and a map of the facility. I never had either. Lord forbid, if an emergency really went down. I wonder how many other brothers didn't have their flashlights, and map of the facility.
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NFL week 9
by Dark Side inweek 8 standings:.
dp 10-3. ds 8-5. tec 10-3. ks 9-4. ms 8-5. sab 11-2. season to date win % .
dp 28-13 .680. ds 25-16 .610. tec 17-10 .630. ks 19-8 .704. ms 18-9 .667. sab 11-2 .846. nfl week 9. ny jets @ detroit.
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And then Jerry Jones needs to go out and hire a real GM.
He should have done that years ago.
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S.O.S.
by AGuest inthis is totally out of my usual realm of posting but i really would like some input, please (may you all have peace!).
i have supervised many employees over the years and have dealt with all kinds of issues, except this one... although i know it's not uncommon.
i have a staff member who has the worst halitosis.
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miseryloveselders
Right back at you, although my eyes are conflicted at this time. everything is getting slower and slower. time to hit the sack. G'night everyone.