several years ago, before my wife and i left, my 5 yr old daughter got up during the watchtower to cross the aisle to sit with someone else.
she tripped on the roving microphone wire and smashed her head on the foot of a metal chair.
the bleeding was profuse and an ambulance was called.
Hey, TD, no offense taken. Same with DT, Giordano, Jamie, Shelby(may you have peace!) and everyone else on this thread that I'm not seeing eye to eye with. Chukky, that applies to you too, I hope this hasn't discouraged you from posting more. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Heck, thats life.
Undercover
the movie opens up with three men being hung and the camera angle leaves nothing to be desired.
then it's pretty much nothing but crazy fun violence from start to end; some of it was pretty grizzly.. don't get me wrong, flipping hell of a movie... but it's weird that it somehow got a pg-13 rating.. -sab.
I should have never came into this thread, you should have put spoiler potential on the thread title. I haven't seen this yet, but you just ruined the beginning for me.
i'm having a really hard time giving my meeting parts.
i had a service meeting part this week and i could hardly get through it.
i am no longer convinced of some of the things jws teach and so i try to either eliminate those things from my parts, or reword them so that i'm not speaking about that which i do not personally believe.
I can relate, Franklin. We thankfully have a sufficient amount of brothers in our congregation, that its not necessary that I'm on the stage every week. So that decreases the chances of me slipping up and blowing my cover. If I was in one of those congregations where I had to be on the stage every week, sometimes two or three times on the same night, I would have lost it. Definate meltdown, foaming at the mouth on the platform while rambling incoherently. Its hard enough being a double agent, with not much to do!!
When I pray nowadays, I NEVER, and I mean NEVER, mention anything about the so called faithful and discreet slave. Its nonsensible to pray for an illustration. When brothers pray and ask for Jehovah to bless the faithful and discreet slave, they're essentially asking Jah to bless an illustration. That makes absolutely no sense. It's like asking Jah to bless the pit that the lost sheep fell in. Thats right, the pit. It's an illustration, nothing more, nothing less. Brothers don't even realize what they're saying. They're just repeating the prayers they've heard other imperfect men repeat for the past thirty years or so.
One thing that I will say is a blessing, is the talks being shortened to thirty minutes. So if you had an outline for something that was originally 45 minutes long, and there's significant things within that outline that offend your conscience, you can get bypass that part nowadays.
As far as Service Meeting parts, what I have trouble with is standing up there faking emotions that are nonexistant within my heart. "Aren't we excited about the ministry?!?!" Several delusional heads nodding at me, and I'm smiling ear to ear. Meanwhile in my heart, I'm thinking to myself how much I hate field service. So lately, I've been thinking about how I can do these parts without compromising my own beliefs. Instead of saying, "Aren't the meetings refreshing?", I say, "Aren't we refreshed after the meetings?" Cuz see, when I say "after the meeting", I'm not lying because I'm generally ecstatic that the meeting is over. You can do that with Service Meeting parts too. Instead of saying, "isn't field service invigorating?", you can say, "don't you feel good after you're done with field service?" You do feel good "after" field service, cuz you hated every second of it from the time you got up in the morning, to meeting with the group, to knocking on the doors of an apathetic neighborhood.
Hang in there bruh!
several years ago, before my wife and i left, my 5 yr old daughter got up during the watchtower to cross the aisle to sit with someone else.
she tripped on the roving microphone wire and smashed her head on the foot of a metal chair.
the bleeding was profuse and an ambulance was called.
I don't like the quick to sue, either, and perhaps the motives left something wanting... BUT... the elders did lie instead of stepping up to their part of the legal responsibility too. So...
So he says. The same person who's willing to sue over his kid's own clumsiness, and his lack of supervision. There's two sides to every story, and the very fact that he wanted to sue, especially several years after the fact, says something to me about his own personal ethics. I'd like to see something legitimate on paper before declaring guilt on that elder body.
In either case, I pace and mutter to myself when something gets to me. I would go for a walk ( a speed walk!) but its been -20 here for a while, and well, I rarely get THAT upset ;)
Tammy
This thread ticked me off. After the pushups, I watched a short film on AMC that I enjoyed. The Red Balloon, about a baloon that befriends a child. I can't believe I'm about to type this, but its a fitting description....it was cute. It warmed my heart for a brief moment. Then I logged back into JWN and looked at this thread again!
several years ago, before my wife and i left, my 5 yr old daughter got up during the watchtower to cross the aisle to sit with someone else.
she tripped on the roving microphone wire and smashed her head on the foot of a metal chair.
the bleeding was profuse and an ambulance was called.
LoL.
Can't resist, can you?
Tammy
This thread caused me some minor sleep loss. I'll be honest with you, this thread ticked me off. I did pushups off the couch to blow off a little steam. It just kills me how quick people are to sue.
several years ago, before my wife and i left, my 5 yr old daughter got up during the watchtower to cross the aisle to sit with someone else.
she tripped on the roving microphone wire and smashed her head on the foot of a metal chair.
the bleeding was profuse and an ambulance was called.
I feel as if I'm being taunted........
as a born in jw, i've always believed that jehovah had no beginning per say.
at the same time i've had the house and watch having a creator argument stamped within my brain for use against evolutionists.
some days its difficult rationalising god's existance as having always been, with everything else needing to be created by him.
As a born in JW, I've always believed that Jehovah had no beginning per say. He's always been there, and always will be. At the same time I've had the house and watch having a creator argument stamped within my brain for use against evolutionists. Some days its difficult rationalising God's existance as having always been, with everything else needing to be created by Him. Yeah I capitalized the H, Bohm. Sorry.
Have you ever thought about nothing? What is your definition of nothing. Would it be immense darkness, or would it be white space like you see on your empty post before you actually type anything? When I try to think about what is nothing, my head begins to hurt. Its as if I'm doing something I ought not.
What is nothing?
had a quick look at the april km - they are having (yet) another invitation campaign to the convention.
slight twist though , in that any invitations not used are to be taken to the convention & used in informal witnessing.. traditional "convention reminders" insert - usual stuff about "jehovah arranging the program" , get early to the stadium , tip restaurant staff , don't make a scene at hotel reception desks if they have messed up your booking , no peeing in the hotel pool etc.
(i made the last one up , but you get the gist.
Another idiotic campaign to keep the flock busy, for no other purpose than to keep them busy.
it gets worse daily, it seems.
just saw an hour-long program on this poor guy, on the learning channel..... "the man who lost his face".
http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=2.1213.56437.41352.0.
BTTT for people to see BetterDaze post. Classic.
Who got the ball rolling to give Mestre a new lease on life?
An anonymous stranger! A "wordly" tourist "soon to be destroyed" at Armageddon, who saw Jose on the street and was moved to help.
Who paid for it?
The Portuguese National Health Service, an arm of Satan's wicked, worldwide government. Also STB destroyed.
Who performed the surgery?
Dr. McKay, a university-educated specialist with a 25-year history of performing corrective surgeries, not knocking on doors. Not a door-knocking JW = STB destroyed.
Where?
At a rotten pagan Roman Catholic hospital founded by nuns, whores of Babylon the Great. STB really, really destroyed!
Bonus question: Who sat by for 40 years while this man suffered physically, emotionally and spiritually?
The Jehovah's Witnesses! Ah, but they Will Live Forever on Paradise Earth™.
"Peter" the tourist
Portuguese National Health Service
Dr. McKay
St. Joseph Hospital
Jehovah's Witnesses
~Sue
several years ago, before my wife and i left, my 5 yr old daughter got up during the watchtower to cross the aisle to sit with someone else.
she tripped on the roving microphone wire and smashed her head on the foot of a metal chair.
the bleeding was profuse and an ambulance was called.
Well, I don't know if MLE will read this, since he says he's done with this thread, but I'll comment again anyhow. Let me preface it by saying to MLE:
From all of my comments on your threads, MLE, you have to know I like you. There's somethng about you that puts me in mind of my beloved SD-7, who I love as my own son. Anyway...
I'm wondering why the congregation didn't offer to at least pay the unreimbursed medical bills. Wouldn't that have been the loving thing to do, especially since brothers aren't permitted to sue brothers?
Dang Jamie, why're you playing with my emotions? Damn.........I'm only posting this because I like you too. Damn. Its the only reason I'm posting this, because quite frankly.....I really am through with this thread. I have to admit, it has touched a nerve. I'd be lying if I said it didnt. Thats why even though I said I'm through with it, I keep looking at it! LOL! This is one of those moments in life where I refuse to see the other side because I just don't think there's anything to see. There's right and there's wrong. Jamie, why are you doing this to me? Huh? Why? The fact remains, "his" daughter, and I emphasize again, "his" daughter who "he's responsible for" was not paying attention to what she was doing and caught an "L" in the process. It happens, I understand that. Take the kid to the ER, let them sew her up, and call it a f#$ing day. But no, that family has a moral code(flimsy in my opinion) that demands for whatever reason, that they have to sue several years after the fact. Then they have the nerve to say it was because they had a mother attending that hall. "They put me through so much!!" Yeah, whatever bruh, join the club. Register at JWN, its full of Sobb stories. Forgive me, I hate cursing on here, but thats complete.....utter.....bull.....shit. GTFOH!!!!! If they didnt' have adequate health insurance, or one of those snake-like health insurances that fought coverage in a case like this, then I can see suing. In this case though, naw, I don't see it. I'm not saying I'm any better than them, but like I've said before...when I post a thread, I expect criticism as I'm not above it. The same should be expected in this case. He put himself out there, and shouldn't expect all of us to agree with it. I'm not one of those lets do whatever to hurt the Watchtower. There's principles in war, there's rules to this.
As far as why the congregation didn't foot the medical bills, again I'd ask whether or not the family had insurance? Was the insurance balking at coverage for this incident? Also, I'd mention, there's two sides to every story. Just because someone posts something, doesn't mean I accept it as fact. See Kool-Aid, or Johnny Bethelite, or even Shelby whom I love to death, but if you bite on Jecusah Mebuthelah, well you're on dust. Anybody on here can take that how they want to, I don't really care. There's two sides to every story, it takes two to tango.
Again, I'm temporarily done with this thread!
