Holy smokes, Alice and Consfearacy on the same thread? LOL, this is what I love about this forum, you never know what to expect. Someone tell me so I don't have to go through every page on this thread as I hate looking at Rachel's cut and paste responses that rarely adress questions directed to her, but I have to know............ Did Alice have a conversation with Consfearacy LOL? Plenty of people talk to themselves, myself included. But talking to oneself on an internet message board is something I've never heard of.
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"High-Control Groups"
by Consfearacy inhttp://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .
"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.
it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.
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One Reason Why I Speak About Racism
by snowbird inhttp://www.eric.ed.gov/ericwebportal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ericextsearch_searchvalue_0=ed018874&ericextsearch_searchtype_0=no&accno=ed018874.
if anyone cares or dares to read this, this is how it was when i was 13 years of age.. the gap in funding for black and white kids' education is still stunning to me 46 years later, but it's there in black and white.. it's a testament to our determination and fortitude that we acquired an education at all.. this, in the richest country on the planet!.
for your edification and, hopefully, understanding.. syl.
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Good point on names being a hindrance. I've been personally avoiding this thread like the plague. I said I wasn't getting into spats regarding racial or political matters any more on here. But one thing I wanted to mention. In this country, patriotic types are always so quick to puff out their chests and say "we're Americans! We're free! It's better here than anywhere else!, etc.." I can agree and understand those sentiments, however the people making those comments often don't take into account all of their fellow Americans. Many in this country grow up on 3rd base, and when they reach home plate, they believe they worked just as hard as the guy born on 1st base. Certain pockets of this country are so systematically behind other pockets of this country, that if there are not programs such as Affirmative action, those very people become in essence a welfare population. A burden. That's not to say I completely agree with Affirmative Action, because I don't. It is reverse discrimination, but it has a purpose.
When my dad was my age, the only jobs available to him were maitenance jobs. He couldn't go in the same church as white people despite having the same faith, which is partly why he was attracted to JWs. Some of the stories he's told me throughout the years at times had my jaw on the floor. Other times I felt a boiling rage that people could be so cruel to someone over skin tone. Whats interesting to me though, is his generation was treated better than the generation before his parents, and especially that of his grandparents. By the way my dad is a Veteran, and he got pooped on far worst being a black man than the white soldiers coming from Vietnam got treated. Now here I am today. I'm doing ok in life, but I know for a fact had I been born in Suburbia, in a middle class background, I'd be a lot farther than where I am. In my high school, they told us we can be carpenters, plumbers, electricians, construction workers, etc.. Thats what they wanted us to aspire towards. I can only imagine what they told my pop's generation. After I graduated I went to a tech school for a trade. The class was held in a this huge high school out in suburbia. I saw what those kids were learning there and I was amazed. Everything from their computers, to their curiculum was completely different and advanced than what I was exposed to. Now that I'm older and can look back, I say for a fact, I got systematically screwed. Not to mention being a friggin JW doesn't help much when it comes to higher education. You multiply my experiences with others in this country from working class and poverty backgrounds. Particulary minorities. Its more difficult for them to compete with those born on 3rd base and white.
For the record though, I'm not whining at all. I'm very proud of being born and raised in the city, with a working class background. Proud of my black skin, and proud of white people too. I just believe personally, to say you agree or disagree with affirmative action is too simplistic. There's too much history, particulary negative history regarding race and class in this country. To this day, there are still too many in powerful places looking to maintain certain status quos.
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Something I Never Understood About Disfellowshipped Ones
by minimus ini never understood why df'd ones would treat other df'd ones like crap.
(after all, they could talk to each other).
but many would "treat" other disfellowshipped just like the witnesses would.
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Thats so comical. Does anybody on this forum have any stories of shunning DFd ones while they were on DFd status too? Its gotta be hilarious to see two DFd people in the grocery store at the opposing ends of an aisle. Probably like a game of blink, which one will go for the 2% milk first? Will they bump into each other? If they do, will they pardon themselves?
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Roger Clemens being charged with perjury for lying to Congress. One of those GTFOH moments in life.
by miseryloveselders ini don't vote, i'll never vote.
some of that may be due to a jw upbringing, but i'm convinced a lot more its my upbringing in the city.
i hate politicians with a passion.
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I thought that list leaked last year? Or the year before.
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Something I Never Understood About Disfellowshipped Ones
by minimus ini never understood why df'd ones would treat other df'd ones like crap.
(after all, they could talk to each other).
but many would "treat" other disfellowshipped just like the witnesses would.
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Just shows how deep the WT penetrates one's thinking. It is crazy though right LOL. I find it somewhat humorous.
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I didn't think it was possible, but I met someone on the internet. She's hot and full of substance. Never thought this would happen to me.
by miseryloveselders inlook at her in all her glory.. .
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how's that. That pic came through huge at first LOL. Usually the copying the URL keeps it proportioned to this boards dimensions. Not this time. I got it edited. But look at that thing. Oh the naughty things I would do to her.
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I didn't think it was possible, but I met someone on the internet. She's hot and full of substance. Never thought this would happen to me.
by miseryloveselders inlook at her in all her glory.. .
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Look at her in all her glory.
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Overheard interesting lunch room converstation..............
by WingCommander inas i just finished up my lunch, i thought i would relate this experience to you all.
i was sitting in the lunch room here at work and 2 ladies were talking.
what were they talking about?
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miseryloveselders
Can't tell you how many times being out in field service and seeing Church groups doing things for the community, and thinking to myself how little I'm doing for society by peddling magazines.
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Why I Disagree With Affirmative Action
by snowbird inquietlyleaving asked this of me on another thread:.
but snowbird i have to ask you why you disagree with affirmative action.
one of the best things about a policy of affirmative action is that an establishement is saying 'you are welcome here' to minorities and that 'we regret that we excluded you in the past'.. while i acknowledge the good that affirmative action has done, ql, i've also been a witness to its downside.. let me explain: i was once sitting for an examination for a state job, and i overheard a conversation between two other ladies who were also taking the exam.. one commented on how difficult the exam was; the other somewhat flippantly replied that it was ok if they didn't do their best because the state of alabama is an affirmative action employer.
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Ok, so are taking bets on how long it will take before Wing Commander asks you out on a date Snowbird?
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One Reason Why I Speak About Racism
by snowbird inhttp://www.eric.ed.gov/ericwebportal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ericextsearch_searchvalue_0=ed018874&ericextsearch_searchtype_0=no&accno=ed018874.
if anyone cares or dares to read this, this is how it was when i was 13 years of age.. the gap in funding for black and white kids' education is still stunning to me 46 years later, but it's there in black and white.. it's a testament to our determination and fortitude that we acquired an education at all.. this, in the richest country on the planet!.
for your edification and, hopefully, understanding.. syl.
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miseryloveselders
In 2010 I wouldn't want to be a teacher. Between undisciplined kids and teenagers, and the parents that defend them like BTS mentioned, and being underpaid like UnderCover mentioned, ......screw that. There was a English teacher who I was fond of. After I graduated, I ran into a cat I knew. He was a Junior when I was a Senior. I asked about this teacher I liked. He told me she had a nervous breakdown in the middle of class. She just stopped what she was doing, and sat at her desk, and started bawling. He told me the class was full of knuckleheads, some of whom I knew. Hard headed dudes all on their way to prison or the grave at a young age. Then he told me about another teacher who I respected but didn't really like per say. She was a history teacher. She broke down too. She just didn't show up one day, and never went back. As far as the racial aspect to it, both of those teachers were late middle aged white women. The classrooms were predominantly black. Those little women were incapable of earning the respect of those dudes back then. Reflecting on it, when I went to that school, the only teachers that we really respected were the males, such as the Gym teacher, and trade teachers such as Technical Drawing, or Autobody. They were mostly white too, but something about them resignated with us. My one Gym teacher had a military background, and he was tough. We all loved him for that. He'd call us faggots when we expressed disatisfaction with his decisions. Or sissies when we didn't complete our pushups and laps. I miss that guy.
