miseryloveselders
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Wayne Brady, Bobby Brown, and Mike Tyson performing Bobby Brown's "Every Little Step."
by miseryloveselders inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzyip_m5gkm.
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"You can't just tell someone their faith is wrong without offering a replacement!"
by sabastious ini have heard this from several witnesses.. the assert that it is insensitive to expose someone's faith as invalid without offering another more valid spiritual path.. "the jehovah's witnesses don't have the truth, because xyz.".
^ i have been accused of offering a disservice because i can't offer the answers to the questions that i am debunking as fradulent.. has anyone else ran into this obscure argument?.
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miseryloveselders
When I was lurking this forum, I remember reading some posts by Renaia. One of the complaints she had was that Ray Franz didn't start a new religion or church after he left. She thought that by him not doing that he was flawed for some reason. The more I think about it, I don't see a valid argument why you have to belong to a church, or in Franz case why he needed to build a church of followers. There's nothing scriptually that indicates belonging to a church is mandatory as a Christian. I can see Paul's reasoning to the Hebrews that they should meet together and encourage one another especially considering the times that they lived in. I can see that reasoning being valid today, however to belong to some church or organization shouldn't be a must-do. There's no scriptural support for this.
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Atanta megachurch pastor accused of sexual misconduct
by undercover inanyone heard about this eddie long guy in atlanta who is being sued for alleged sexual misconduct?
i haven't seen any threads about it.
apologies if i missed it and this is a re-hash.... here's a link to an msnbc article:.
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miseryloveselders
I shouldn't laugh, but his name is ironic considering what he's being charged with. Its kind of like Dirk Diggler.
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How Being a Witness made you Lose out on Higher Education and Careers
by flipper inhi, folks.
been thinking of this, because of having been raised in the witnesses.
i reflect back on opportunities i would have encountered and seized, had it not been for being controlled by the witness organization being told higher education was not needed.
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Then a few years after HS the WTS eased up on their high education stance. I was completely devasted and thought how in the world can they do a complete 180?
Cuz they're a bunch of old selfish pricks up there in Bethel, thats why. This is a sore spot for me too. I don't like complaining too loudly about this because I could be in Somalia or Iraq. Plus I haven't done bad in life with the hand I've been dealt. I'm not starving by any means. At the same time not a day goes by that I don't wonder what if I had went to college, what if I hadn't been born in this cancer of a religion? The one thing that really burns me is that the same people on the platform discouraging college came from well to do backgrounds and were sending their adult children to school. My father who is an old school black man with a chip on his shoulder has relayed to me several times that he should have encouraged me to go to school, becaus the white brothers were sending all their kids to school. I don't like getting into the racial end of it too much because my generation isn't quite like his, so I don't hold that kind of resentment, but I know what he means.
Another thing that really irritates me is, when a brother with an education gets baptized, I guarantee you he will advance far more rapidly than your average born-in. He'll become a Ministerial Servant and an Elder quicker than you could ever imagine. Brothers will brown-nose him equally as bad as they do COs and DOs, and Bethel heavies.
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Since reaching middle aged adulthood, you ever have moments of uncertainty that frightened you?
by miseryloveselders intoday's been somewhat of a strange day for me, but what concerns me is that i can't provide an explanation why.
i awoke a couple minutes before my alarm clock went off, as i always do.
its rare that the alarm wakes me.
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I just got back from lunch. I took the advice and took a walk. I also went ahead and got a Flu/H1N1 shot. I haven't had a flu shot since middle school. I'll probably get shot or hit by a bus making the flu shot invalid. At any rate it did feel good taking a walk through downtown, but I always take a walk during my lunch break. And again thats what frightens me. There is nothing different about day from any other day in my life that I can recall. I have to admit its really strange. My confidence is just a lil tarnished. I've always prided myself on being willing to go toe to toe with a grizzly if I had to. After today though, I don't know anymore. I feel like a coward, but I don't know what I'm cowering from. Friggin weird man. I've taken Xanax in the past for exciting times, but this was different, very different. I'm nervous from nothing. SMH Thats what made me think its age related. I don't like this getting older thing.
Poopsie , I find it hard to look forward to more experiences at least not today anyway. Tommorrow I'll probably be staight, I hope anyway . Right now, the future looks empty and white, sorta like a blank post before you type anything and hit submit. I just see nothing right now. Absolutely nothing. I hate to come off melodramatic or anything, I'm not an overly emotional guy, but this feeling was something new today.
Journey, I'm wondering if its leaning more on boredom than anything. I loved this job when I started last year, but I have sorta reached a dull moment doing it. I'm about ready to sink my teeth in something else.
Grandma thanks for sharing your experiences, I hope I dont have any Lu-Lu's as you put them LOL. Lu-Lu's sounds like something from a WB cartoon.
Curious, thanks for the thought. I'll keep an eye on it.
edit this post, I don't know why medical tape is so sticky. My shoulder is a little hairy, it hurts taking the tape off after a shot.
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Since reaching middle aged adulthood, you ever have moments of uncertainty that frightened you?
by miseryloveselders intoday's been somewhat of a strange day for me, but what concerns me is that i can't provide an explanation why.
i awoke a couple minutes before my alarm clock went off, as i always do.
its rare that the alarm wakes me.
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Thanks for all of your thoughts.
UC, I'm being honest I just can't imagine being any older than I already am. Call me shortsighted I don't know, maybe its the JW upbringing influencing me. Maybe it is boredom from the job, it is pretty repetative. I never understood the humor in the film Office Space until I started working here.
Hey LostGen, thanks for your thoughts. Maybe it is conscience man, I don't know. I mean with the exception of this forum, the relgion really wasn't on my mind today. I'm glad you said it happens a few times a year to you too. Not that I'm glad you go through that, but glad this isn't rare.
Blondie, I'm trying to get a positive attitude in life. You sound like my father, he says I can be overly negative at times. My outlook can be pretty crappy at times. This is different though, because there's nothing specific on my mind. Its like a void.
Tec, I'll try that. Right now I feel a lot better, but I had to say something to somebody before it passed. I just had to analyze this with somebody elses input.
Syl, whats wrong with brothas wearing khakis? I bet Denzel wears them!!!!
Outlaw, I have to say out of all the comments yours scared me the most. Being honest, it frightens me to see the years go by. I never thought I'd be in my thirties. I just can't fathom it. Now that I'm in my thirties, I don't know where I'm going, where I headed to, if I'm in the right or wrong direction, or what. Life has a sick way of reminding you how little you can be at times.
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Since reaching middle aged adulthood, you ever have moments of uncertainty that frightened you?
by miseryloveselders intoday's been somewhat of a strange day for me, but what concerns me is that i can't provide an explanation why.
i awoke a couple minutes before my alarm clock went off, as i always do.
its rare that the alarm wakes me.
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30s, huh? Just wait till you get in your late 40s/early 50s...
whippersnapper...
The thought of that just seems unreal. I have more faith in the latest generation than me reaching my 40s and 50s. Got Dang, I just can't fathom being that old man.
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Since reaching middle aged adulthood, you ever have moments of uncertainty that frightened you?
by miseryloveselders intoday's been somewhat of a strange day for me, but what concerns me is that i can't provide an explanation why.
i awoke a couple minutes before my alarm clock went off, as i always do.
its rare that the alarm wakes me.
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Today's been somewhat of a strange day for me, but what concerns me is that I can't provide an explanation why. I awoke a couple minutes before my alarm clock went off, as I always do. Its rare that the alarm wakes me. I ironed some khakis, a polo shirt. Jumped in the car, minimal traffic. I clocked in on time, sat down and started working. For some reason though, I feel irritated today. I'm a tad aggitated, even slightly angry. I don't have a reason to feel this way though, and it bothers me. I got up to microwave a can of soup for breakfast, and there was this huge line around our office kitchen. The line was for free flu shots. For a brief moment I thought to myself that maybe, maybe I'll get the shot this year. I haven't had a flu shot since middle school if my memory serves me correct. I walked the long way around the line and entered the kitchen through another door. I stirred my soup, placed it in the microwave and nuked it. I turned to the vending machines and got a bottle of water, and some M&Ms. The microwave beeped, and I took the container out, and stirred it. While stirring, I got a weird nervous feeling. All the while I'm feeling awkward, yet stirring my soup, I realized I've done this before. Many times before. It was almost like Deja-vu. I looked at the doorway from the kitchen, and I noticed some newer faces in the line for flu shots. I walked out the back door, and headed back to my desk. I passed a coworker, and she greeted me, and I greeted her back. For some reason though, I felt cold toward her, kinda numb. I'm at my desk now, and even as I'm typing this I feel a kind of dread. Everything just seems all too familiar. Too repetative. I've never felt this way before.
Is this what happens when we reach our thirties or older? Is this whats meant by mid life crisis? I've never had an uncertainty that I couldn't explain. I don't even know if I should label it anxiety as there's nothing concrete thats on my mind or pushing my buttons at this time.
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Do You Think Some Witnesses Are Mentally Ill Or Mentally Impaired....
by minimus inand that's why they are in the religion?.
i recall many jws over the years who were what i'll call "weird"---and looking back at it, many witnesses are "odd" and "different"..
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Taking note of the ingrained social psychology of JW apologetics that come here fighting for their religion ( AIW, MadJw, Reniaa )its easy to see the rationalization of matters are void of sound reasoning.Even when you present something that has strong logic they shun it or dismiss it if goes against Watchtower think.They have really been indoctrinated by acts of coiroern and provocative fear, which reveals a true and unhealthy mental imbalance, a comparative resemblance to the fear, ignorance and superstitions of past ancient civilizations .
This is something that disturbs me. All the JW apologetics that post here have serious mental problems. Alice In Wonderland was truly a nut, in the worst way too. She was nuts. She had different personas(Confearacy) on here, and an unhealthy obsession with dark alchemist or witchlike art. She only communicated by copying and pasting. Her posts reminded me of a serial killer who leaves clues for the cops by pasting different sentences from different articles on a blank sheet of paper.
MadJW is another one who is obviously not right in the head. I knew a White Supremacist who has Aspergers. He'd actually talk with me, even though he knew I was aware of his views. We actually got along and he was very respectful of me. As time went on, it was quite apparent to me that his idealogy was more the result of his illness, than anything else. Somewhere down the line he developed an fixation on white supremacy. His parents are well to do people and from what I understand his father did everything he reasonably could to help his son. I remember him being the type of guy who really needed attention, but really immature in how he'd go about seeking it, but again you could tell something wasn't quite right upstairs. Everytime MADJW posts, it reminds me of this guy. MadJW is messed up in the head, and its obvious. When I think of MadJW, I picture someone very lonely, who's best years at finding a companion are long behind him. I picture someone with only a couple people that he considers friends, even though those couple people don't view him with the same fondness. He's the type of person who if you know him and see him coming down the street, you cross the street and pray he didn't see you. Sorta like Ned from Groundhog Day.
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Hello JWN...excited to be a new member!
by braveheart ini stumbled on to this forum about a month ago...and i'm hooked!!
a tremendous amount of knowledge, wisdom, great debate, and lol humor, which is good for the soul.. i am not a jw, but the borg infected my family years ago, many are still trapped, and i have 2 big shot elders.. i became a huge opposer/apostate and had many a battle.
today we have learned to live in peace...live and let live.. recently, i decided to get up to date with everything jw... i often wonder why my family can't see or figure out the real truth.
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miseryloveselders
Welcome Braveheart.