Why don't you two numbnuts getta room? You think somebody's gonna make a romantic comedy film about you two? Get real. Shelby, who do you want to play you? Alfre Woodard?
miseryloveselders
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It Is Not the First Time
by AGuest into the household of god, israel, and those who go with, may you all have peace!.
i have not been posting "a lot" lately (not that i post a lot, considering the averages) and there is a reason: i have another bit to share and just wasn't up to the "fight" that usually comes when i do so.
so, i had to take a step back and let our lord refresh me a bit and give me the strength... and flint-y forehead... that i would need to follow through with this post.
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Has anyone ever heard this theory about God and Satan?
by serenitynow! inthat satan is the evil alter ego of god?
that god has some sort of split personality.
that would explain the mass killings of people while still saying that he is a god of love.
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miseryloveselders
You can't have serenity without agony ;)
Or Misery!!!
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Has anyone ever heard this theory about God and Satan?
by serenitynow! inthat satan is the evil alter ego of god?
that god has some sort of split personality.
that would explain the mass killings of people while still saying that he is a god of love.
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miseryloveselders
I almost posted a thread with a similar thought, but I'm glad I noticed this first. I never heard about this theory, but a similar thought has been on my mind lately.
I was thinking, which was probably my first mistake, but I was thinking.........Satan took the position that Job only worshipped Jehovah because of the blessings in return. So Job held his integrity and proved Satan's to be wrong, at least in Job's case anyways. The argument can be made Satan lost the argument in Job's case, but if we're to believe the WT's view that only they and JWs will be granted salvation, then Satan has won the argument over Jehovah 10 times to 1.
Considering the above, and the theme of your thread, it appears that Satan and Jehovah have switched tactics, at least from my perspective as a born-in JW. I don't feel any pressure from Satan, or his so called system of things. I do feel tremendous pressure from God's so called chosen organization though. Satan hasn't killed anybody in my family, hasn't taken away my ability to make a living, hasn't taken away any joy I may have ever had, hasn't struck me with illness, and hasn't caused any of my so called friends to question my character. All of those things I mentioned, Satan is guilty of according to the Book of Job.
On the other hand, Jehovah's chosen organization holds my family over my head as the cost for leaving the WT, potentially killing my relationship with them. This organization has effectively killed any educational aspirations I've ever had limiting my ability to make a living as I see fit. This organization has went above in beyond in making me a miserable young man. This organization has given me physical problems as I come to grips with the real reasons that I'm dealing with depression, anxiety, and hypertension. This organization constantly questions my character everytime I ever get the feeling there's something wrong with this organization, or this way of life.
It really does appear like Satan and God have switched positions somewhere down the line and never bothered to tell us JWs about it. Maybe they are the same, and depending on what day it is, its a flip of the quarter which one you may be praying to.
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How was dating as Jehovah Witness?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inlooking back i'm glad i didn't marry my ex..
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miseryloveselders
I hear several tones in your post, MLE. There's a little nostalgia but regret is more prominent. Sounds to me that wordly girl might have taken you to bed but for your own reserved nature. My theory is that the adventuresome lives of young adult Jehovah's witnesses are taken away from them for all time.
You read me all too well Nick, all too well. Sometimes I wish life could be like a Vodka commercial, but it doesn't work like that. I don't want to sound like I'm bragging, but quite a few made themselves available to me. The moral hangup prevented me from the sexual side of it all, and the religious hangup prevented me from doing whats natural, that being dating and getting married, having a couple crumbsnatchers. Now that I'm going apostate, and am in my early thirties, I'm thinking I missed out on quite a lot. Being dedicated to an organization is not a healthy way to live one's life. Everything that's natural is viewed negatively, including the theme of this thread, dating. Somedays it aint fair, life should be more like Vodka commercials, but life is more like that Simply Red song from way back. Can't recall the name of that song LOL.
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How was dating as Jehovah Witness?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inlooking back i'm glad i didn't marry my ex..
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miseryloveselders
The worst is dating nonJWs, trying to live a double life. During high school, and for a time as a young adult, I had some hook-ups, and dated outside Da Troof. It's tough trying to concentrate on enjoying your time with a woman, when in the back of your mind all you can think of, "is please don't let me get seen, Puuuhhhleeeese!!!!" One incident, I was in field service with a half dozen or so other JWs, and we took a lunch break at Wendy's. We sit down to grub, and who do I see sitting across from me? A worldy girl I hung out with a couple months before. I couldn't act like I didn't know her, but I couldn't act like I knew her all too well either! So she waived, and The Friends noticed. So I politely excused myself and ate my lunch with her. Later they asked me what hall she went to. I told them she wasn't a JW, but someone I went to school with who I hadn't seen in a while. Then we went and did RVs. The whole time I'm thinking to myself, "boy was that close." She was wrapping up her Master's Degree the last I heard. She reminded me of Sharon Leal, who is a beautiful woman.
Another instance I was doing door to door in the summertime, and I knew a gal lived in this neighborhood but I couldn't remember where. She was gorgous, I mean beautiful. Half Columbian, quarter Italian/quarter Irish. She was a head turner, and very down to earth. We linked up a couple times. Had it not been for this crazy wacked out religion, I would have put a ring on her finger. She's the type of gal you'd lay your life on the line for. It would be honorable to lose your life while trying to protect hers. Very down to earth, very spontaneious, street smart, street savvy, very intelligent, very genuine, just a very wonderful gal. Part of the reason I didn't pursue anything with her was she was getting ready to go away for college, that and the JW thing. Anyways, walking down the street with an older brother, who do I see all the way atop some steps? Again, I told the brother to excuse me, I know her personally, and I have some work related matters to ask her about and that I'll catch up with the rest of the group later. The fact that it was hot outside, and I talked to her outside on the porch made it possible to downplay any suspicions The Friends might have had. Crazy!! Situations like that are why I stopped doing the double life thing, and took the JW thing all too seriously. It was just too stressful trying to live both lives like that. I had several situations like that.
As far as dating other JWs, there's no way in the world I'm letting someone chaperone me. I'm a grown man, and I don't need anyone watching me. The one thing I hate when it comes to dating JWs, is its a very small world in this religion. News spreads fast, and I'm a very private, reserved person. I don't like people knowing my business. JWs don't need to know what I do for a living, heck I'd be happy if none of them knew my name.
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The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act passed last Thursday. A couple sites already feeling the heat.
by miseryloveselders inhttp://www.ballerstatus.com/2010/11/26/congress-passes-web-censorship-bill-two-hip-hop-sites-shut-down/.
i remember vaguely hearing about this bill, but i forgot about it.
apparently it passed, and a couple hip hop forums i've frequented in times past already got raided due to illegal file sharing.
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miseryloveselders
Hey Pirata, those sites promoted leaked albums to be downloaded before they even were released at retail. Maybe I should rephrase that to, the administrators on those sites turned a blind eye to what they're forum users were doing.
Hey Aussie, you're right, I don't think the WT is concerned about profit so much, as much as they're concerned about secrecy. Not just secrecy though, I wonder how paranoid and totalitarian the WT is? Are they capable of getting down and dirty enough to use this law to find out who's who in the undercover apostate community? I'll tell you the Feds going after those two hip hop sites sent some shockwaves through the file sharing community. I wonder how far this is capable of going.
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Wife & I were Without Electricity for 6 Days - Empathize with 3rd World......
by flipper ina massive storm from alaska knocked the hell out of northern california , giving us a foot and a half of snow , snapping trees like matchsticks , crashing multiple electrical lines in the sierra mountains where we live.
knocking electric out for 6 days ( thus my dissapearing act from jwn for 6 days ) - we had a 90 ft. ponderosa pine tree ( 3ft, around ) crash on the lower end of our acre we live on .
it's still leaning on oak trees suspended in time.
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Thanks for posting this Flipper. Every now and then I get the feeling to prepare for this kind of situation, because where I'm located it could happen. I don't know what the potential is for a Roland Emmerich film to play out in real life, but it would be sensible to be prepared for such a scenario. I feel you on having an understanding of what people in 3rd world countries are going through, or even people in this country in certain inner cities and rural spots. Sometimes we never know how good we have it until we get smacked in the face with reality. AllState, FEMA or Michelin aren't going to be there when you need them the most.
I'm happy you and your wife are ok. There aint nothing like a hot shower either!!! I was off yesterday for the holiday, and didn't get up until around 3:30pm, and around 6:30 I got this horrible feeling in my skin and nerves. I was so irritable. I was dirty, grimy, and needed a shower!!! Oh was I foul! Being off work through my bathing schedule off a few hours and it bothered me to no end! It felt so good when that Noxema hit my face, and cleaning my booty crack out! Oh it felt good!! Just think, people live like that because they have no choice. It's hard to imagine, and here in the states we got the nerve to complain about cigarette prices LOL.
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Are most JW's window washers?
by SlipnSlide ini have read this on this site and know some that do this type of work.
if most jw's are window washers, what other occupations are considered the type of jobs that a witless would have.
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You right Pirata, I apologize Wasblind if I came off a tad harsh, but that egotism irritates me to no end. I mean no harm to anybody on here, I just hate that classism. I mean it really irritates me. The apostate community appears to have a problem with Proletariats it seems. I work on the top floor of an office building. Every now and then I get that feeling somebody's watching me like that song from the 80's. I look to my left, and its a window washer. He's got bigger balls than I ever had, cuz I couldn't do that for a living. It's not the money why I couldn't do it, I'd just be too scared to do it. That kind of work is terrifying! It's a living though, he's gotta family to feed. Who is anybody to mock anybody's way of living? The funniest part about it to me is, the people making fun of window washers, I'd bet both my testicles that not nary a poster on this board including myself would ever insult a window washer to his face. I guarantee that. The other thing that bothers me, and this will probably come off hypocritical considering my posting and thread record, but I have to ask this question. How do you expect to win the attention of a lurker when the first thing he/she is presented with is they're a window washer? It's bad enough that many posters on here look down on JWs as delusional brainwashed zombies, forgetting that they themselves were in the same predicament at some point. Now, not only are they braindead zombies, but they're lower class scum, ignorant, delusional, uneducated zombies too! It's not right.
By the way, I don't like that MLE acronym, like Vamp mentioned, it can be pronounced as Emily, and that bothers me. For now on, call me Misery.
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Are most JW's window washers?
by SlipnSlide ini have read this on this site and know some that do this type of work.
if most jw's are window washers, what other occupations are considered the type of jobs that a witless would have.
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Hey Misery,
did I miss something ? when did this thread become a thread about race ?
nobody mentioned race. It's about jobs
Don't mess up my buzz tonight Wasblind, I'm feeling pretty good right now. Dont you mess it up, I mean that. It ain't about race, never was, never will be. I just threw out there to illustrate how proposterous it is saying most JWs are window washers. Since lurking here, and hanging around for a minute, one of the handful of things I've found that disturbs me about the apostate community is how judgemental apostates can be. For a bunch of former JWs, many are still as judgemental as the most pious of active JWs. I admit myself, I'm a judgemental bastard. However, its ludicrous to generalize JWs as window washers, like WTF seriously? It's as bad as labeling all Jews as a bunch of money pinching, child sacrificing, hollywood running, beady eyed, palastenian killing, hook nosed bastards. It's not ok to say that, but its perfectly acceptable to call the average JW a window washer. I swear some of you mofos I'd like to smack the snot out of, or even worse.
Most of you folks, if not all were JWs at one point or another, but did you all window wash? For those that don't or never did do window washing for a living, who are you to look down on anybody? Something I've always chuckled to myself about since growing up JW, is I never lost a limb in a war or got half my body torn apart by an IED in the name freedom, so that you arrogant elitist bastards can continue looking down on how somebody makes a living. I'm proud to say I never did that. Working class in my veins, and I'm proud of that. You don't like it, or my kind, f#$ you, drop dead. I mean that too. Disgusting how you folks think.
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Are most JW's window washers?
by SlipnSlide ini have read this on this site and know some that do this type of work.
if most jw's are window washers, what other occupations are considered the type of jobs that a witless would have.
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miseryloveselders
This irritates me slightly. When I lurked here, one of the surprising things about the apostate community is this thought that JWs are uneducated window washers. I'm a tad bit offended by this, well not really. Most JWs I know, are not in the cleaning business. The ones that are, make a pretty good living. The company I work for has quite a few JWs peppered throughout the system that I'm aware of. All of them are making a pretty ok living.
By the way, what's wrong with being a window washer? A living is a living, right? As a black dude from the city, I could suggest that all white dudes from the suburbs are cowardly and weak since thats what some blacks down here believe anyway. I'd find an audience that would agree with those sentiments, regardless if its not true.