i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
Hi Holey -Cheeses King-of-the-juices
Not the most diplomatic language. But if you have experienced callousness and selfishness and been a victim of elders brutally unfeeling behaviour in their service to twelve deluded and inhuman men in Brooklyn. Well then I feal you are fully justified in your no punches comment. and Iam sure even ex-elders on this board who have rejected their effete life of eldership will understand your language was appropriate and from the heart.
Acolytes
my dislike of "mickey mouse" elders peaked in angry disgust when a inspection of my personal closet detached one of the sleeves of my shirt unbuttoned.
i was then repremanded and threatend with expulsion from the privalige of working the microphone.i grudgingly accepted the necessity of buttoning my shirtsleeve as i belived in our just cause of helping bring about universal soveringty.. however as a result of the above event gradually and barely noticed by myself iam moving into the worldly life.
gradually the contours of the future are appearing.
Thanks for the replys.
Seriously as my eyes opened this callous religiouse organisation forced me to assume grotesque qualities. I lost my ability to speak as I new it best to remain silent to certain judgemental statements. I could no longer alter the expression of my face for fear of giving my true emotions away. I was a tragic figure who could never succeed on my own efforts but always by Jehover and his organisation.
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
OPEN MIND
I guess in your case it would be the society calling you a "Wolf In Sheeps Closing "
As I said earlier if a person is a true victim of a repressive organisation with a humane heart they can rouse themselfs sufficiently to reclaim their integrity-It seems to me you did just that.
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
I must say I didnt fully understand the joke about badges. Farkel kindly explain.
ON-THE -WAYOUT.
You are writting a book.
Any inspiration from my Big Bad Wolves idea.The stunning and provocative and highly entertaining account of how the Jehovers Witnesses governing body myth making factory has created the image of the indomitable male, and in the process shaped and distorted our understanding of the spiritual man. This larger than life male is the congregation elder.
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
SIXONINE
With slightly different wording the ELDER OATH sounds like the oath I recited as a cub-scout.
Acolytes
most christians assume that the gift of salvation is free.. but gods promises are very conditional and the word "if" is used nearly 1600times in the bible.. the bible is an "iffy" book and the promises of god very conditional.. i would be interested in a christian perspective as to why they think salvation is a free gift-.
acolytes.
AK Jeff
I envy mouthys faith.Wish I had it-Its better than accepting but still resenting the necessity of dying.
Acolytes
my dislike of "mickey mouse" elders peaked in angry disgust when a inspection of my personal closet detached one of the sleeves of my shirt unbuttoned.
i was then repremanded and threatend with expulsion from the privalige of working the microphone.i grudgingly accepted the necessity of buttoning my shirtsleeve as i belived in our just cause of helping bring about universal soveringty.. however as a result of the above event gradually and barely noticed by myself iam moving into the worldly life.
gradually the contours of the future are appearing.
cantleave
I can assure you I have left the organisation. I can give absolute proof to that because I have become deeply concerned about unemployment and poverty, inflation and recession hurting more people . I have been troubled by the aggravating disadvantages of racial minorities. Also since I have broken free of the "Watchtower" God and no longer need it to comprehend the world around me. I have questiond so much that I believe that people who love are and should be able to hate. Humun beings respond with anger to frustration coercion and exploitation and I have learnt to channel both my capacity to love and my anger into work both professionally and voluntary.
Acolytes (Of the healed class)
most christians assume that the gift of salvation is free.. but gods promises are very conditional and the word "if" is used nearly 1600times in the bible.. the bible is an "iffy" book and the promises of god very conditional.. i would be interested in a christian perspective as to why they think salvation is a free gift-.
acolytes.
BTS. My wife has stopped loving me . But she has never stopped liking me Sometimes she has been in love with me but not liked me. Today we like and love eachother. Whatever the future we will always be together and when we are not in love we will like each other to be in love again.
As for God not forcing anyone to love him, isnt the greatest commandment to love God? (What is the difference between command and forcing?)
Acolytes
my dislike of "mickey mouse" elders peaked in angry disgust when a inspection of my personal closet detached one of the sleeves of my shirt unbuttoned.
i was then repremanded and threatend with expulsion from the privalige of working the microphone.i grudgingly accepted the necessity of buttoning my shirtsleeve as i belived in our just cause of helping bring about universal soveringty.. however as a result of the above event gradually and barely noticed by myself iam moving into the worldly life.
gradually the contours of the future are appearing.
My dislike of "Mickey Mouse" elders peaked in angry disgust when a inspection of my personal closet detached one of the sleeves of my shirt unbuttoned. I was then repremanded and threatend with expulsion from the privalige of working the microphone.I grudgingly accepted the necessity of buttoning my shirtsleeve as I belived in our just cause of helping bring about universal soveringty.
However as a result of the above event gradually and barely noticed by myself Iam moving into the worldly life. Gradually the contours of the future are appearing. For the first time I questiond my future role in Gods organisation.
Acolytes
most christians assume that the gift of salvation is free.. but gods promises are very conditional and the word "if" is used nearly 1600times in the bible.. the bible is an "iffy" book and the promises of god very conditional.. i would be interested in a christian perspective as to why they think salvation is a free gift-.
acolytes.
BTS
What does Jesus command?
If you keep my commandments you will remain in my love..................................
And it must be freely accepted.
I must say it sounds very much like the watchtowers stance on love. (Would you ever command someone to love you)
Acolytes
