Hi Blondie
You said what I said. But you explained it so much better.
Acolytes
this is my first post and i suppose something like this has been posted before but i would love to get your thoughts on it.
really do you ever think that the society will fall apart?
or will it always be propped up by die hard members?will it see 2020 i wonder with the growth it has seen?.
Hi Blondie
You said what I said. But you explained it so much better.
Acolytes
this is my first post and i suppose something like this has been posted before but i would love to get your thoughts on it.
really do you ever think that the society will fall apart?
or will it always be propped up by die hard members?will it see 2020 i wonder with the growth it has seen?.
Hi
The "society" doesnt exist. It only exists in the false thinking of people.
Yes the "Society" Will always survive, untill the rivers all run dry, and people are extint.
Acolytes
i`m taking this veiwpoint from a jw/christian observation, and my questions are:.
if god, jehovah, allah,or whoever else you may like to call him,truly had the worlds " human" interests at heart,why would he only deal with a small minority of humans,over centuries of time ignoring the vast majority of the worlds population.. why would he send a number of prophets over centuries of time,to specifically set matters straight as to how they should worship him,then when it comes down to jesus time ,their are numerous sects,and no real direction from god as to how they should worship him.it`s all left up to faith,which is radically different from the "old testament"veiw.. why didn`t he give instructions /guidance to the rest of mankind,(who would have been in the millions by now)to give them some hope of salvation?
obviously he didn`t give any thought to them.. 2000 years on from their, the christian gospel is mainly only preached in western civilizations,it is not widely preached in india,pakistan,the uae,mainland china,indonesia,afghanistan,or many other large populated areas.. so my question is.... does god really "love the world so much that he gave his only begotten son" .
Hi Smiddy
Your question will get a lot of "Yes" And "NO" answers and reasoning in-between-
My answer to the question is if "yes" then he should bow low right down to the earth and shed a tear, if" no" then we should bow low right down to the earth and shed a tear.
Personally I have no idea.
Acolytes
what was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.
for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..
It was a society
Acolytes
jehovah is one of the most colorful personalities in history!.
he is mighty, awe-inspiring, violent, whimsical, repenting of having even created man--yet, capable of bargaining with the likes of lot and stopping the literal-minded abram from stabbing his own isaac to death as a sacrifice.. jehovah flies into a rage and wipes out thousands in a heartbeat, sends she-bears to tear children apart, drowns millions of men, women, children and pregnant women in a worldwide flood---but, champions one family of 8.. this same super-deity walks in the garden of eden in the breezy part of the day, wrestles with jacob all night and can only manage to get away by crippling him!
jehovah leads the children of israel to freedom out of egypt and yet opens up the earth and swallows up many of the same people when moses delays returning from sinai and they slip into their old ways.. what a character!
Terry
Thanks for the reply.
You said I have a brain and should use it.
I do use my brain. I use it and understand colors are only names, words dont exist, and no one has the right to start expecting any person to see things a certain way -your way-Instead of some other way. My way be just as good.
Acolytes
want to briefly address why i am here.. i did say i was done with jw forums.
and i am in a sense.
i would like to announce a couple of things.
Hi ALL-TIME JEFF
GOOD POST.
I no longer compare the witnesses with some kind of false imaginary world. Iam glad I no longer belong to it-Iam pleased that I can talk my oppossing views with members of the congregation. For every witness that shuns me an equal number still accept me as a friend.(Even elders)
I also think it goes well for the congregation that when I said the shunnung of a former sister was possibly making her suicidal that they went to her appartment spoke with her and now greet her in the street.
I guess my exsperience of witnesess and shunning is different from many. I guess my former friends are like Nichodimus and only speak to me in secret. But in similar circumstances I would do the same.As to those that shun me I guess its because of fear and I accept that to.
As to what I believe Iam not sure anymore.But its my thinking, and iam not interested in others accepting my thinking. Infact I only like discussing my belives to hear questions that challenge my thinking.
Acolytes
jehovah is one of the most colorful personalities in history!.
he is mighty, awe-inspiring, violent, whimsical, repenting of having even created man--yet, capable of bargaining with the likes of lot and stopping the literal-minded abram from stabbing his own isaac to death as a sacrifice.. jehovah flies into a rage and wipes out thousands in a heartbeat, sends she-bears to tear children apart, drowns millions of men, women, children and pregnant women in a worldwide flood---but, champions one family of 8.. this same super-deity walks in the garden of eden in the breezy part of the day, wrestles with jacob all night and can only manage to get away by crippling him!
jehovah leads the children of israel to freedom out of egypt and yet opens up the earth and swallows up many of the same people when moses delays returning from sinai and they slip into their old ways.. what a character!
Ensam....Good post
I hope you survive this board with your faculties intact.
Acolytes
jehovah is one of the most colorful personalities in history!.
he is mighty, awe-inspiring, violent, whimsical, repenting of having even created man--yet, capable of bargaining with the likes of lot and stopping the literal-minded abram from stabbing his own isaac to death as a sacrifice.. jehovah flies into a rage and wipes out thousands in a heartbeat, sends she-bears to tear children apart, drowns millions of men, women, children and pregnant women in a worldwide flood---but, champions one family of 8.. this same super-deity walks in the garden of eden in the breezy part of the day, wrestles with jacob all night and can only manage to get away by crippling him!
jehovah leads the children of israel to freedom out of egypt and yet opens up the earth and swallows up many of the same people when moses delays returning from sinai and they slip into their old ways.. what a character!
Terry
Modern tecnology has given as :-
Active Topics, Search,Members,Post Reply, New Topic, and the benifiting of reply......I wonder how your view points would be received in 2000 years without this tecnology?
Acolytes
i remember a 'sister' coming up to me and telling me off for being on the atkins diet, as it was satanic and designed by satan.. chukky.
The wierdest thing a J.W ever said to me.
"I dont want to be impolite but I cant talk to you"
Acolytes
jehovah is one of the most colorful personalities in history!.
he is mighty, awe-inspiring, violent, whimsical, repenting of having even created man--yet, capable of bargaining with the likes of lot and stopping the literal-minded abram from stabbing his own isaac to death as a sacrifice.. jehovah flies into a rage and wipes out thousands in a heartbeat, sends she-bears to tear children apart, drowns millions of men, women, children and pregnant women in a worldwide flood---but, champions one family of 8.. this same super-deity walks in the garden of eden in the breezy part of the day, wrestles with jacob all night and can only manage to get away by crippling him!
jehovah leads the children of israel to freedom out of egypt and yet opens up the earth and swallows up many of the same people when moses delays returning from sinai and they slip into their old ways.. what a character!
designs
Did Jesus walk on water. ?
Did the tombs open and all the dead saints go into the city when he diead?
If it happened or it didnt happen does it matter?
How deaf and stupid to attach our thinking to either it happend or didnt happen. We dont know.
Does this mean we should shut the book (Any book) we read because its not compatible with our thinking.
If thats the case we may as well close the internet which has far better tricks than walking on water.
Acolytes