Yeah, they are all the same. I found a group of ex-IFBs where the fallout in that group is similar to the fallout in this one.
garyneal
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ExJW similarities to ExMormons
by Christ Alone ini've recently noticed that many that leave the mormon church have very similar experiences to those that leave the watchtower.
i thought that since we have so many new people on the site, it may be that some of them are still leary of reading or watching experiences from exjws.
i found an exit story from an exmormon family, and much of what they say is similar to our experiences.
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Another sad non jw falling for a baptised jw girl story
by spirituk inok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .
my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .
i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .
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garyneal
I WANT HER ! she keeps posting songs in fb telling that '' you will never know how much i love you '' etc she is so sad .. i am sure that some other people have made her take the decision to be away from me .. please help us..
Wow, um ,this is, um, WOW! Let's see, you both live in another country, she's removed you from her facebook, her brother has advised you not to go to another country to see her, she's not sure if she wants to be with you, and you still think WE can help?
Okay, here's how I can help. Go seek professional counseling and explain why you must have this ONE girl who is obviously wishy washy about you. Or instead, maybe you can go volunteer in some community center and get around a lot of other people and (more importantly) a lot of other girls. Go enjoy life and post all that on YOUR facebook wall / timeline. Perhaps she will see it and realize what a fucked up life she is leading trying to play to a cult or she will try to 'one up' you by trying to show how good her life is, or she might not care. If the first one, she may come around and something may spark. Otherwise, I guarantee that your feelings for her will eventually fade and you may find yourself defriending her one day as you slowly begin to realize that she really isn't at all worth obsessing over.
Go do something for yourself and LIVE, this obsession is not healthy and reflects more on you than her.
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They Are Just Like The Amish (But with Electricity)
by OnTheWayOut ini was describing jehovah's witnesses to a family member who had no idea whatsoever about them.
i may be straightforward and describe things in terms i have learned since reading about cults, but i was not over the top in any way.
i was simply stating the facts in a way that did not try to put any positive spin on anything.. my family member said, "so they are basically the amish but with televisions and electricity.
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garyneal
Say that often enough to Dubbies and it may get through that they too are in a friggin' cult.
You would have to explain why the Amish are witnesses unplugged or they would never make the connection. Their first reaction would be, "No we're not, we mix in society. We don't live seperately like the Amish do." I was never a witness and that was my first reaction.
Most witnesses would never think too far beyond that.
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They Are Just Like The Amish (But with Electricity)
by OnTheWayOut ini was describing jehovah's witnesses to a family member who had no idea whatsoever about them.
i may be straightforward and describe things in terms i have learned since reading about cults, but i was not over the top in any way.
i was simply stating the facts in a way that did not try to put any positive spin on anything.. my family member said, "so they are basically the amish but with televisions and electricity.
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garyneal
One of the major criticisms I had of the IFB's was that they seemed to espouse the Amish type of life. Meaning that they tended to favor the simple, plain, 19th century, Little House on the Prairie lifestyle. In fact, when I shared this with my other fellow former IFBers one of them said that they use to be called "those prairie kids" by their neighbors. The IFB's (much like the Amish) tended to view progress as something that came from the devil.
Isn't it strange that all these wierd little culty religions (IFBs, Mormoms, Amish, and JWs) all tend to want to favor the 19th century American culture as if the 19th century American culture is that perfect lifestyle especially blessed by God. I mean, if a certain type of culture were really so important to God then perhaps God would've preferred something closer to the culture of those who actually lived in Bible times. Wouldn't you think? The last time I checked, the ancient Israelites did not resemble in any way, shape, form, or fashion 19th century aggrerian America.
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Abrahamism vs Gnosticism in a Nutshell :)
by ProdigalSon inhttp://www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/sex-for-salvation-ii%282395055%29.htm.
judaism claims that the way to god is through obeying endless rules allegedly imposed by god.
the great philosopher immanuel kant claimed that judaism wasn't a religion at all, but a mere body of laws.
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garyneal
Ugh, the New World Order?!
What is this?
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-27-2013 (FORGIVE ANOTHER)
by blondie inforgiving one another.
why must we be willing to forgive?.
paragraph 18 = 0. .
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garyneal
Certainly thought about this at my wife's study today.
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garyneal
I don't know, Perry, I use to hear the same stuff coming out of the mouth of my old Independent Fundamental Baptist preacher some 20 years ago. Well, at least him and Jack Van Impe. It use to scare me to death and make me want to try to be a better Christian which for an IFB meant attending all the church services and going out soul winning regularly. The downside is that it was never enough as every Sunday morning, Sunday night, or Wednesday night I would hear the pastor say yet something else was wrong with my life. Either because I was in college getting a 'secular education' or I was still living at home when I was 21 or because I would just get bored with the church and check out other churches (after hearing from the pulpit that only the IFB's had the right teachings).
Back then, we were expecting the New World Order TM to occur by the late 1990's and preparing for the millenia rein of Christ to occur during the 2000's. Look ma, its 2012 and no New World Order TM . The world is still spinning the same way much as it did 20 years ago. No Anti-Christ, unless you believe the conservative pundits who claim Obama is it. Back in the 1980's I was told that Ronald Reagan had the mark of the beast (the 666 which were the number of letters in his first, middle, and last names). Well, the beast is dead, unless that super computer in Belgium is the B.E.A.S.T. (which was also preached by that IFB preacher).
In short, why get scared of the turn of events whether real or imagined?
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garyneal
Haven't met you, would like to.
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Who would you most like to meet from this board and why?
by usualusername inwho would you most like to meet from this board and why?.
i would love to by danmera dinner.
she rocks!.
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garyneal
Gracey, Mouthy
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Blood transfusions and JW children in a household with a non-believer parent
by never a jw injust recently my daughter ask for permission to get baptized.
not knowing the mess that my wife's religion is, i consented.
after a lot of research, i now regret my decision.
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garyneal
Jehovah's Witnesses have a habit of being notoriously slippy when it comes to reasoning. They will say almost anything to justify their position and will resort to acting beligerent and downright hateful when it becomes too challenging. In some ways, their mind is fighting for their life.
Your best bet is to question their doctrine and help them to see their own dishonesty. Is there a doctrine that your daughter does not totally agree with? That can help you can use that as a wedge of sorts to help her reason. Why does she not agree with the society of doctrine X? Let her do the talking.