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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
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  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  I loved it.

  This is something I wish I had come up with. Will certainly mark this for future reference.
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  Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935… Re-opened in 2007

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.

  ) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.

  in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.

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  Dubs & Halloween

  by Nathan Natas in

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  Lol! Handing out bible tracts to trick or treaters and they love it?? For some reason I'm skeptical.

  http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/2013/
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  The Smoke and Mirrors of the Annual Meeting

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.

  sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".

  why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?

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  My wife is going to that annual meeting tomorrow. Appears that they can only go by invitation and she seems real excited. So it appears that they are getting a new word from the vatican. That was what I said at least.
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  Ready to put the breaks on my kids attending meetings

  by marriedtoajw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  those of you who have been reading any of my posts know my situation with my jw wife.

  to update you a little on what's been going on, here it is.

  my 22 year old son who still lives at hom has stopped studying with the jw's and has not been to meetings for a few weeks.

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  garyneal

  My daugher is getting more confused too. She wants to go trick or treating but is asking questions as to why the people at the meeting says it's bad and the other kids there can't go.

  Different people view things differently, some people think it is okay to trick or treat, some do not. The attitude witnesses take with Halloween can also be found in many Christian churches as well. Tell her you think it is okay if she wants to do it.

  Are you in charge of your finances? You should be if you alone are making all the money. Pay what bills you can and cut off non essential things. For me, something non-essential might include a cell phone plan that my wife and I have. If she starts making her own money, she can buy her own plan. That is just an example, your mileage may vary.
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  JW.org keyword is effective tool ;-)

  by jw07 in

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  based on my personal experience adding 'jw.org' to online posts (especially youtube videos) seems to have a good effect with regards to spreading ttatt to not so tech savvy jws.

  i was at an elder's house last week when he stumbled on to 'jehovah's witnesses new light on f&ds.

  jw.org' by brad zook.

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  My mother-in-law tells my wife to make sure that the address says jw.org for if it does not "it may be apostate."
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  Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .

  any ideas?.

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  Wow, my wife has the same talk. She went over it with me last night and I noticed many similarities as if the witnesses all read from the same script. I suppose they do, no original thought here.

  Her take on the question was that people become disgruntled with their church over doctrine or other issues, leave the church, and find another one nearby. On some level, I could accuse Pastor Russell of doing this.
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  Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .

  any ideas?.

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  When people do not read what is in the Bible, and only accept what their church leaders tell them without verifying if what they are being taught is actually in the Bible, then they are likely to follow men instead of really listening to God.

  So, I will leave you these magazines, and how about when I come back we study with the Bibleifthere is a true religion?

  Now there's a contradiction if I've ever seen one.
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  Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .

  any ideas?.

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  Really???!!?! What awake?

  Haven't read it for myself but I think this source is trustworthy. It lists the Awake (correction Watchtower) article that speaks of it and upon a second glance does not directly come out and call Mr Camping a false prophet, but it did refer to his prediction as prophecy.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-prophet.php

  As far as him saying it was invisible, that was discussed here sometime ago. I will have to look up the thread.
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  When did Theology Last add something to Human Knowledge?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to illustrate my question.... i am watching an episode of the australian tv program "q & a" on youtube.

  the panel includes the brilliant laurence krauss, gay bishop gene robinson, the woefully ignorant and bigoted rev fred nile and a few others.. the early questions put gene robinson under the spotlight and to be fair he comes across as a loving, compassionate, intelligent and - in his own words - "fabulous" person.

  by contrast the reverend nile is a caricature of everything that is dispicable and hateful about theism.. a self-righteous young man in the audience asks gene how he deals with the bible's condemnation of homosexuality.

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  Did you read Matt Walsh's article? It is so bad I think I will have to respond to it later.

  Yes I did, it is indeed terrible and I said as much in the comments section.