Posts by xelder

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As a Man have your Attitudes Towards Women Changed since Exiting JW's ?

by flipper in

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being raised in the jehovah's witness cult - i saw so many times what would be referred to as " supportive wives " wait after meetings for an hour, two hours, even more until midnight for husbands who met in backrooms meeting to decide on judicial matters if some individual witness was righteous - or not.

wives of elders were expected to do this to show submission and alleged " respect " for the headship arrangement or eldership of their husbands !

incredible.

xelder

Hey Flipper - sending a PM so I can meet you...I'm near Santa barbara...and will drive to you sometime

Women and Elder's wives....I think most of us men are works in progress in this matter. But, I sincerely believe that I have improved greatly. I think all of society has had to learn to change, but it's was especially bad for JW wives. What do you expect from a group who wants to still be "under law" just like being Jews. T be honest, JW life for a female seems close to the bible description of Isrealite wives. In the 70's as a kid in the congregation, "women's liberation" was a bad word and linked up with the whole hippie movement. No doubt about it, the finest individuals I've known in the Borg were female.

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Why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?

by sabastious in

what's two cities in the stream of human history?.

-sab.

xelder

Bohm-- You should say it just that way on the Ministry school. bet you don't get a "G"

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Help with Doubting BIL

by Simon Morley in

i have a bil that has started to doubt.

he is hung up on the fact that he sees jw's as the only one fullfilling the preaching of the good news.

i am sure there are some excellent past posts on this topic and would be happy to get them.

xelder

Ask if he thinks the content of the modern JW message matches the first century. In the first century, the message was about Christ and release from sin.

Also, did the congregation at Ephesus run exactly like the one in Corinth or Jerusalem? Today, JW's talk about dates and uniformity to the latest GB doctrinal dart game.

In Ray Franz books, he addresses the fact that many have preached about Christ and spread Bibles for centuries before JW's ever did. It's in these lands where JW's have come along afterward and done well converting people. Others 'softened the soil' beforehand.

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Hello - I´m new here

by Starfish in

just wanted to introduce myself.... .

i am a secret fader but since reading this forum i feel i am alot more confident about telling my family/friends that i don t go to the meetings and inactive.. my hubby is also a fader with me...we kind of drifted after my first baby was born.

she is now 11.. it all started with my mom who started studying with my cousin when i was about 15. while she was studying i also started studying (i was about 16).

xelder

A few mistakes.......hrmmmm...go confess to your elders

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I Would Like to Buy or Barrow....

by onemore in

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friends

the book titled sign of the last days.

by carl o. jonsson.

it looks like the book is out of print.

xelder

well....call me dumb, but I bought a used copy on Amazon for $50.00...WORTH EVERY PENNY

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Hello - I´m new here

by Starfish in

just wanted to introduce myself.... .

i am a secret fader but since reading this forum i feel i am alot more confident about telling my family/friends that i don t go to the meetings and inactive.. my hubby is also a fader with me...we kind of drifted after my first baby was born.

she is now 11.. it all started with my mom who started studying with my cousin when i was about 15. while she was studying i also started studying (i was about 16).

xelder

Welcome...thanks for your experience....nice folks on here and you will be and feel welcome

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Herbal remedies

by Ice cream in

if in the beginning when god (supposedly) created adam & eve, with the prospect of eternal life without sickness etc.

why did he create plants with medicinal values that could treat sickness & ailments?

hope that makes sense.

xelder

Obviously....so that 6000 years later Watchtower Farms could grow their own cheap medicine for Bethelites

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Been verrrry, very sad

by xelder in

i last posted in mid february about my wife.

we were adjusting to the new realisation of what the wts really is.. she has since left me, and i have been reeling ever since, but now after 5 months, i'm getting back some strength.

i haven't been able to post on here because i just couldn't talk about it.

xelder

Dagney and Aude - you have pm's

Wow...thanks everyone.

Didn't mean to whine. I am doing much better, but thanks again to all of you.

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Been verrrry, very sad

by xelder in

i last posted in mid february about my wife.

we were adjusting to the new realisation of what the wts really is.. she has since left me, and i have been reeling ever since, but now after 5 months, i'm getting back some strength.

i haven't been able to post on here because i just couldn't talk about it.

xelder

Ok CyberJesus - you have a PM - thanks. And thanks to all of you.

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Been verrrry, very sad

by xelder in

i last posted in mid february about my wife.

we were adjusting to the new realisation of what the wts really is.. she has since left me, and i have been reeling ever since, but now after 5 months, i'm getting back some strength.

i haven't been able to post on here because i just couldn't talk about it.

xelder

I last posted in mid February about my wife. We were adjusting to the new realisation of what the WTS really is.

She has since left me, and I have been reeling ever since, but now after 5 months, I'm getting back some strength. I haven't been able to post on here because I just couldn't talk about it. She didn't leave because of my violence, cheating, drinking, drugs or any of that stuff. She filed for divorce and by WTS law, I'm scriptually free but that is of little consolation at this point.

I'm on the coast near Santa Barbara and I sure would like some nice apostate friends. Who else can I really talk to about all I'm going through and why. I'm 50 now and my life has really taken a turn over the last couple years. But I'm still young and energetic and will bounce. I've started volunteering for various community organizations (homeless, nursing home, symphony, battered women, fire department, etc) I guess it's that JW feeling of needing to go out an do something, although these things actually help someone now, as apposed to pushing publishers to push literature.

This site has meant so much to me. Would love to hear from all of you, especially if you are nearby.