Posts by Truthexplorer

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UK TV--next monday 24th aug---channel 5-----9 pm--escaping the witnesses

by stan livedeath in

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friends

just see it advertised on tv--with photo of our friend from south wales

Truthexplorer

Cant believe it. I walked into the living room and my 'borg can do no wrong' wife was watching the programme and said look at this, its about the witnesses!!!!!!

It was about 20 minutes in and I then sat down and watched it with her. Once it ended, we watched the first 20 minutes on channel 5+1. She didnt say much and I didnt want to say too much..... but I think she got the message loud and clear about shunning. In fact the scientology lady helped amplify how cult like shunning was which really drove it home how horrible a practice it is.

I did however mention during the programme that what one of the ladies was saying that the elders are not properly qualified/trained to deal with deep emotional family issues and said that this was especially the case with child abuse. She never said anything, so I let the TV do the talking. Wow incredible!!

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Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

by wifibandit in

via /r/exjw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

Truthexplorer

Christians are now allowed to use their own conscience when it comes to remember ing their child birth? spread the good news out of love? conscientiously choose to take blood if their life is under threat? view people of other Christian faith groups as Christians? allow people the right to resign from the watchtower if they decide to join another Christian faith group? end the high control affecting the average JW? admit the GB are simply a group of men at the head of a publishing company who simply produce literature to edify Bible students as originally purposed by CTR? practice what Jesus said about giving to the poor? an end to cruel shunning? put things right so that individuals are no longer ashamed to admit they are JWs? have children and youth group activities to invogorate? and encourage? end boring meetings with encouraging meetings that reach the heart? etc etc etc. on yeah. ....the GB admit there was no corporate GB in the first century or worded in the bible? that the holy spirit guided early Christians and that Christians are to look to Jesus as the way, the truth and the life......and that way we come to serve and do Jehovah's will?

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Discussing the RC with a friend and my JW wife was listening.

by Driving Force in

i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.

my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.

she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.

Truthexplorer

Hi driving force, thanks for your reply and sorry to hear how things are with your wife. It is sad that people blindly follow regardless. It's so hard to break through. I have been using a softly softly approach to exposing this high control religion when speaking to my wife. I personally cant see her ever looking into the TTATT, but hope more big events like the ARC hearing will come along and help open peoples eyes. NOTE: I am not sure what happened to the beginning of my last reply, but I had meant to say that my wife initially gave out to me when I mentioned I had been watching the ARC hearing. She said I have j7st been to the convention where mark Sanderson said we should avoid listening to negative views of the organisation. I explained that I happened to see that a hearing was being held on the news!! and that I simply followed the 'public hearing' on you tube out of curiosity. She then gave me a look of disapproval and walked out of the room. ...That was on Monday. This was the reason why (as per my previous reply) that I was very surprised she engaged in a discussion with me this morning about Jackson's hearing. ..I wish you and your wife a measure of peace amongst all the turmoil you are both experiencing right now. TE

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Discussing the RC with a friend and my JW wife was listening.

by Driving Force in

i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.

my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.

she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.

Truthexplorer

Driving Force.

However, just this morning, she was making breakfast and she seemed in a good mood, so I raised it again. I said did you know Geoffrey Jackson ...one of the GB was questioned by the commission for over 2 hours.

Well, I couldn't believe it, we ended up having a great discussion over it. To appease her to begin with....I said to be fair, he did hold his ground quite well bringing out the scriptures; BUT was caught out a number of times. She asked like what? I said well you have to remember, these lawyers a the RC have razor sharp minds and they are really on the ball about things. I mentioned how the 2 witness rule was brought up and Jackson showed what Jesus said in Matthew about this. But then Angus Stewart (who I have to say was brilliant) said that Jesus would have been referring back to the mosaic law In the book of Deuteronomy. and that Jackson agreed. Then....unbelievably Angus Stewart asked Jackson to read a portion of scripture about if a woman was raped in a field and no one heard her screams. That the person who raped her would be put to death. The point being that it was her word and 'circumstantial evidence' because obviously there was no other witness; therefore the man was judged on this alone. My wife totally saw this point and agreed with me.

I then explained, so if a 15 year old girl goes to the elders clearly traumatized having told them her father had abused her and the elders could clearly see the girl was telling the truth...and that they had other circumstantial evidence in the face of the father was lying, that they could then make judgement on the matter. My wife again agreed.

I then said that justice McClellan then asked Jackson....supposing she doesn't want to go to the police. What would you do? Clearly, Jackson didn't give a clear concise answer to that question and tried to dodge it at one point.

This again created further discussion and she said something to the effect that the elders couldn't do anything!

I however mentioned what I would do in line with my experience in social care work, that one of the things they should do, not only to protect the girl, but also the congregation and public at large was to at least get some kind of background check on the guy at the very least. Also, if as per what the elders were saying at the commission, they had no doubt that BCG was telling the truth about her abuse, they should have supported her to go to the police or contact them to say they had deep concerns so that the matter could be investigated further by professionals who know how to deal with such situations.

My wife completely agreed with me. I said to her. The society/organization NEED to make changes. She again agreed. Note: my wife likes to gossip btw. It will be interesting if she brings up the subject amongst her very large group of friends :-)

TE

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Do you consider this site Godly or Ungodly

by Truthexplorer in

over the years, i have seen a change in heart with the country i grew up in and the general view of what they perceive as how everyone should view things in relation to morality.

a strictly religious country for centuries now forever changed within a short number of years.

i have also seen the viewpoint on this site gradually change in many ways.

Truthexplorer

Over the years, I have seen a change in heart with the country I grew up in and the general view of what they perceive as how everyone should view things in relation to morality. A strictly religious country for centuries now forever changed within a short number of years. I have also seen the viewpoint on this site gradually change in many ways. I am all for constructive criticism of the society so that they will makes things better for their members; but by the same token increasingly alarmed at the views of those who even suggest that God has Got things wrong, that his son Jesus would not have such a opinion,, that the bible is nonsense etc. oh come on...think about it! For me, Gods standards NEVER change. I fully believe that Gods word was inspired and that his moral standards are for our (mankind's) benefit....absolutely. Wake up people The world is upside down in their thinking. Gods ways are the best ways. the wholesome ways, the right ways. The ways God had intended families to be. The world has changed....not for the better....but for the worse..moral breakdown is everywhere (except in those parts of the world where the opposite extreme is carried out which no doubt again saddens God).and will continue to the point when Godly intervention. is necessary. That time is now near. I now feel this ever since a certain event took place that absolutely confirmed everything I need to know that this world is now completely gone mad. There is no balance anymore. It is now from one extreme or the other. complete liberalism or inhumane extreme intolerance. My faith is in God and his son, our King Yeshua/ Jesus who will bring everything BACK to perfection. No more sickness, death or badness of any sort. It is at this point I have to say goodbye. For those of you who are confused out there, the only advice I can give for you is to turn to God and his beloved son Jesus Christ for guidance. There lies the hope and the inner peace you will truly find. The spirit will guide you through the good and bad. Turn back to him and regain your faith. Goodbye everyone. This is my very last post. TE

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I left the troof behind in 2006. What have I missed?

by Jehovah lol in

i'm up to date with what the wt taught in 2006 but have no idea what has changed since.. do tell..

Truthexplorer

I don't know how I am ever going to come out of the closet and reveal to the brothers I wear spandex at my local disco on Friday nights

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An experience at Bethel

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking of something i observed on a visit to bethel some years back, that at the time struck me as odd, but now that i look back on it, it might be revealing about their financial situation.

please feel free to agree/disagree with me and also bear in mind this is some years back so my memory may be sketchey.

i remember walking into the front entrance of the bethel to do a tour.

Truthexplorer

that condom tale had me in stitches

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The flat earth conspiracy!

by Truthexplorer in

ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

Truthexplorer

actually I meant this one....sorry!
http://wwwwwwwww.whale.to/a/earth_curvature.html

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The flat earth conspiracy!

by Truthexplorer in

ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

Truthexplorer

hi great teacher. check out this link
http://wwwwwwwww.whale.to/a/13271_1145796812113309_8079385559108134732_n.jpg

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What triggered your doubts / awakening?

by Tornintwo in

i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

Truthexplorer

the study of the revelation book began setting doubts for me. Also the societies stonewall haughty attitude when ever the media try to ask questions when some controversy comes along. It used to peeve me of big time why this loving new religion I had just joined behaved that way. It used to grind my gears until I learned ttatt