Truthexplorer
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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015
by TheListener inthere has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
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Truthexplorer
It's just unbelievable. Maybe they had been copying Enrons financial model guaranteeing projected profits of biillions of dollars..arrff -
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I feel trapped...I might return to the Borg....
by JustHuman14 ini have being thinking quite a while before posting.
actually i haven't post for quite a long in the forum and i guess i'm one of the old ones, since i became member since 2001.. after leaving the borg for almost 16 years and disfellowshiped 10 years ago.
you can see my relevant post:.
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Truthexplorer
Hi just human 14. I was a quite fortunate to see your post just now as Intriged by all the changes happening at the moment etc. Yes, the reason it took so long was I had been reproved in my old hall and had just moved to another area hence to a new hall. My wife and I were having martial problems at the time. My heart wasn't in the truth at that time and I was attending the hall for about 4 months. I was told I needed to attend ALL meetings at that time is 2002. That included the group study. It was that that put me off as I was not allowed to answer up which was really embarrassing. So I gave up after 4 months (faded) as couldn't stand it anymore plus the fact my wife an I weren't getting along at the time. We get along fine now BTW. I then discovered things on line with the age of the internet. I came across this site which led me to crises of conscience which I came across in the city library. That book had a huge impact on me and most certainly changed my whole outlook of the society. About 2004 I made a half hearted effort to return again having to suffer the embarrass ment of attending the group without being able to answer. I lasted about 4 months again. In 2006, I made another attempt to go back, this time I lasted 6 months. After 6 months I went up to an elder who was quite old in years and ASKED him if I would be able to answer up yet. He gave me a remarkable answer which I still remember to this day. He said whilst shaking his head with a you must be joking smirk on his face 'nah, nah no'. That answer just about knocked me over. I lasted about another 3 weeks and was seething with anger at the way these so called loving shepherds treat people who clearly were trying to get back into the fold....yet like to watch people stew. At that point I just gave up. I also decided to write a letter to the PO as to why I didn't want to go back. I mentioned a number of things in the letter that I didn't agree with such as Christ's mediatorship, the blood issue etc and said I wanted to read up on other faiths as felt I had rushed into the JWs etc. The PO came to my home, and discussed the letter. He said the door would always be open and left things at that. I was quite surprised he didn't call a JC to be honest. Anyway In 2007 I was diagnosed with a serious illness which made me think alot about things. I began reading the nkjv of the bible and read it all the way through within a year and a half, underlining and marking everything. At that point I truly felt my spirituality coming back again. In 2009, I made a decisive move to go back to the meetings and thankfully I wouldn't have to sit through the group study as they were done a way with which was a God send. I gave the PO a heartfelt letter telling him I was genuine and sincere in returning and that I would accept the help of the elders. As can be seen by my previous post, they left me stewing for well over a year. Not one elder EVER asked how I was doing spiritually. It was as if they wanted or at least expected me to go away. Over that period of time, I felt nothing but despair and genuine hurt at these men. Every time they were on the platform talking about love and how we should reach out to those who need help, I felt like shouting hypocrites! As per previous post, my old PO got me back on track and shortly after decided to take perimeno' s advice to move to a different hall. Perimeno's advice was absolutely spot on. This brother helped me keep focused. You should check out his writings on his site as will help you in your return. I am now in the same loving hall. The brothers in that hall are genuine Christians and my wife daughter and I are very well thought off. I just thinking k its ashamed these sincere people are being misled by the GB. But know that Jesus on his return will straighten out all error. Perimeno means to wait BTW. I now keep under the radar and avoid saying things that will jeopardise my position within the hall. I really do hope change will come about before Jesus return, we can only hope. I wish you all the best in your return. Endure patiently and once re instated keep a low profile. You don't need to be controlled by the GB, and can have a loving relationship with Our heavenly father and his son. Best regards TE -
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Letter from Brazilian Branch: Buildings
by TheTruthBR inthis letter will be read in all the congregations of brazil on the service meeting this week.
(google translation - original available)originala todas as congregacoesprezados irmaos:nao ha duvida de que jeova tem abencoado ricamente seu povo no mundo inteiro.
isso fica evidenteno aumento do numero de publicadores e no notavel progresso espiritual de nossa organizacao.
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Truthexplorer
Jusy a wee quote from blazing saddles ( in reference to what has been mentioned over the past week) ......it twu...its twu...its twu -
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I admit- I make my TMS talks apostate
by fr0808 inhello (not a new user - had to reregister with the site revamp).
i look for every way to make my 5 minute talks devoid of wt flavor.
i try to be positive -talk about god's love for humanity.
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Cappytan - I use other religious sites for my talks too. in fact the illustration used in one of my talks was taken directly from another Christian website and had several people tell me how much they enjoyed my talk and illustration :-) -
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I admit- I make my TMS talks apostate
by fr0808 inhello (not a new user - had to reregister with the site revamp).
i look for every way to make my 5 minute talks devoid of wt flavor.
i try to be positive -talk about god's love for humanity.
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Truthexplorer
I avoid mentioning the GB atogether. In fact I explained in one of my talks how we are the children of God which is why Jehovah is our father. The school overseer just made some quick remark about the children of God, but no eye brows raised regarding my talk which was in WT eyes completely apostate. -
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It must be a concern of all the information that is now been leaked
by joe134cd ini have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.
it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.
hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.
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Truthexplorer
Heres a crazy theory. Wouldnt it be something if there was a mole within the GB!!! -
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I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.
by John Aquila inyesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.
three of them were ministerial servants.
all of them are from the spanish congregation.
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hey John Aquila, those spanish brothers will be thinking you my be a true prophet when that letter is read out lol :-) -
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Tired of the truth... Tired of doubting
by Deltawave ini'm reaching out here, i've known ttatt for about 3-4 years now.
sadly when i first grasped it i had a total mental breakdown as i was a hard core firm to the core pioneer and 110% believer of my faith.!
now nearly 2years on after my breakdown i still have to attend to please my jw wife.
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Truthexplorer
Hi Deltawave, We all feel your pain, your frustration and anger knowing the real truth about the troof. I like yourself woke up proper about 2002/3 after reading crisis of conscience and coming across this site. I faded away for several years, but then returned determined to not be controlled the way I had been before. I have experience d through mild depression/ low mood all because of this American based religion ( no offence to Americans BTW as yearn to visit the US one day). The Australian Royal Commissions hearing into child abuse exposes that lofty self righteous arrogant attitude that The GB promote amongst the 'shepherds' of 'Gods true organisation' . That same arrogant, self righteous, proud way they displayed in the panorama video 'suffer the little children'. I still see the distraught face of that poor tearful girl explaining how she got ZERO support from her so called shepherds after she told them about her abuse. My wife knows I have apostate (actually ttatt) views, as I drip feed her information all the time about stuff in a gentle way. I have written letters to my wife and mother to explain why I will take a blood transfusion if in a life threatening situation. I also wrote explaining to them why I DO NOT want them to shun my child or myself in the hypothetical situation that I were to freely choose to leave explaining in detail why the shunning policy is inaccurate/wrong amongst JW's. I once saw a film where the rightful leader of country (which at the time was ruled by another powerful country) said...if they won't listen to the voices of the people and yet continue to impose their will over the people of that country, then we will simply ignore them! That's the view I now take with the society. They refuse to listen to the voices crying out to them to change, so I choose to ignore the parts I know or feel is wrong. I attend the KH today, but keep under the radar. In actual fact the hall I am in is a loving congregation and view them is sincere Christians though misled by a small group of men in New York. I no longer tell people at work I am a JW. I simply tell people I am a Christian and attend a local Christian Church. I now feel comfortable allying the above and keeping a low profile like thousands of others. There is plenty of advice on here and you can choose how to walk. The only advice I would give is to just be yourself and enjoy doing things with your family and friends. You can have your faith in the true sense to fill your spiritual need without the entire controlling dictates of the GB/ watchtower. I wish you all the best Delaware. TE -
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Watchtower Society: something terribly going on - scenarios
by Gorbatchov inif an (aggressive) real estate fund is stopping it's operations directly,.
and if an publishing house is minimize the portfolio,.
and if a member of it's board of directors is telling the costs are higher then the profits,.
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Perhaps the reality is that the bubble has finally burst. That they have bitten off more than they can chew. Wrong financial advice given and so forth. I have to say I dont know what to make of everything that is going on right now. Am feeling a sense of curiosity mingled with a touch if excitement right now. -
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Has NASA discoverd flowing water on Mars?
by The Rebel innasa is holding a press conference today entiltled " mars mystery solved".
speculation is they will announce the discovery of flowing water on mars?.
the significance of this is that it raises the possibility of possible past life or future existence on the planet.. the rebel..
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Truthexplorer
I sometimes wonder if nasa is taking a leaf out of the GB,s book as to how to get more funding. lets drip feed the masses into believing this and that to keep up their interest!