The elder just emailed me and asked if we could do it tomorrow night...
That sounds like an opening to me! "I'm sorry, that won't be convenient. Perhaps some other time."
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Need help with a shepherding call!
by brotherdan inso the elders are coming by for a shepherding call on tuesday.
i am not ready to "out" myself just yet.
i don't know how to act when they are there.
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Changing seasons, time to say goodbye...
by Chalam inhello jwners,.
well a lot of things have been happening in my personal life.. my wife and i have been through several trials, our youngest who was born with a rare condition will be four this month and last year my wife got the "all clear" from cancer :).
financially, there have been changes too, some regular work from the last five years finished back in june of last year and the lord has been long encouraging me to use some talents he gave me once again.
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Steven, you will be missed. Thank you for sharing your faith and kindness, it is heartening to witness. Good luck to you and your family, wherever God leads you.
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The Gloves Are Off - Its Official Round 1 has just taken place .. !!!!
by sleepingbeauty ini woke up today a right grumpy basket case.... not a good day for the jehovah's witness to call on me to do there usual shepherding call, bringing me the usual mags of shite!
i stood there on the doorstep in my pj's, care free and all fired up.
i was asked how i was doing & then informed that they had my latest mags.
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Happy Rebirth Day to you,
Happy birthday to your daughter!
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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses lie to recruits?
by jerome infirst let me say this.. i have constantly been hearing of the legendary honesty/intergity of the jehovah's witness for some time now.
i have also been informed that they are the happiest people on the entire earth.. my problem is this:.
when a jehovah's witness comes to your door and you actually decide to give them a few moments of your time they never give the whole story as to what you would be getting involved with when you join the watchtower.. case in point.
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I think one reason they lie to others is that they have been conditioned to lie to themselves without realizing it, what Orwell called "doublethink". They don't realize that they're doing it; they think they are telling you "The Truth" as they were taught it.
"Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do."
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ExJWs and NonJWs Ask: Should I Try to Change My Mate?
by pirata ini put this together more as a collection of my thoughts.
i would appreciate hearing your thoughts, disagreements, rebuttals, etc on this subject as it has been weighing a lot on my mind lately:.
after reading a lot of heart-breaking stories over the years on this message forum about mates who no longer believe in the jw religion, the common thread seems to be a desire to get the jw mate to see the same thing; with usually dissapointing results.. i am currently of the opinion that maybe the best thing is not to try to change your mate's religion.
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"If he does not listen even to the congregation [which was obliged to disfellowship him], let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector [to Jehovah's sanctified nation]."
Oh, how they mutilate that passage with their insertions! They take a message of charity, and twist it into an excuse to treat your spouse like a household fixture! First, let's read it without the WT modifications (Matt 18:17 from NJB):
But if he refuses to listen to these, report it to the community; and if he refuses to listen to the community, treat him like a gentile or a tax collector.
Ask yourself: did Jesus treat the gentiles? How did Jesus treat the tax collectors? He dined with them, He showed them love and charity, He forgave. That is exactly what loving spouses do: they love, they are kind, they forgive, and then forgive some more--because they know they themselves are far from faultless, so their partner is forgiving them too. Without that mutual love and forgiveness, resentment would suffocate the marriage.
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Packers--they're playing their best football in Deecember
Jets--a sentimental pick, LT deserves to win a Super Bowl ring before he retires
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Clestial Seasonings Bengal Spice...
Or (if you want genuine TEA in your cup) Morning Thunder
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I'm so very saddened right now
by sooner7nc ini just received this from an old friend on fb.
i can't hang with an apostate or someone cheering.
on apostates...of course, if jw's are not your cup.
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Those people with the hee-haw sensibilities are very dear to me and I won't have you speaking ill of them.
Well said, Sooner! You stood your ground without being mean, with just a touch of irony for the "loving organiztion". Don't let him get under your skin, you have handled the situation like the honorable man you are.
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Are there any Watchtower prophesies that came true?
by TTWSYF ini know that the failed predictions of amageddon for 1914, 1918, 1925, during wwii, and 1975 have been well documented here and other places, but are there any [documented] 'prophesies' that actually came true?.
dc.
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@ Leolaia, can you tell us which publication and date that article came from?
Thanks!
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"Surely, he'll change" -- he didn't.
"She'll never change" -- she did.
Their lawyers prospered.