Posts by GLTirebiter

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911 forgotten amongst JWs

by fade_away in

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i noticed over the last 10 years that in every 9/11 anniversary, jws that i know personally don't even mention it.

not a word about the anniversary.

not a compassionate comment, not a prayer....nothing.

GLTirebiter

This anniversary especially, is an in their face reminder of a time when so many JW's hoped this act of terrorism would lead to a war that would kick-off the long awaited Great Tribulaton.

I remember reading several years ago about the reaction to 9/11 at Bethel, where they had a clear view of the destruction of the Trade Center from their strategic location at the east end of the Brooklyn Bridge, where the stream of refugees walked past as they fled lower Manhattan. Could anybody here provide a link an article discussing this, or give a first-person account of the reaction at Watchtower headquarters?

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Golly, what a wonderful unplanned weekend...

by Glander in

great weather, lots of family dropping by and some staying over.

impromptu food arrangements turned out great.

a couple of months ago we converted the side yard into a campground setting with a fire pit, picnic table, and screen tent, etc.

GLTirebiter

hmmm, no response...is she still in line at the DMV office?

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My Father passed away during the night

by jwfacts in

dad was a great man, great, despite the religion.

he was powerful, tall and intelligent, yet humble and kind.

he was an introvert, and a circuit overseer.

GLTirebiter

I offer my sympathy. Your father was a good man, one of many caught up in a twisted organization. May he rest in peace.

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FREE Kindle edition of Evolution book!

by 3Mozzies in

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free kindle edition of evolution bookby jerry coyne - why evolution is true .

added: tuesday, 06 september 2011 at 8:30 am.

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/642957-free-kindle-edition-of-evolution-book.

GLTirebiter

Download underway.

Thanks, 3Mozzies!

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here we go

by lostinthought in

GLTirebiter

IE9 has a "compatability mode" control that seems to work for most folks using IE. Otherwise, later versions of Firefox and Chrome seem to work pretty well here. With Firefox, you'll probably need to use "ctrl-C" and "ctrl-V" to cut and paste,because the right mouse button commands usally won't work with it on this site.

Welcome to the forum!

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"Do not go beyond the things written"

by hotspur in

how many times did you hear that?

it wasn't until i read with disbelief no room for george's pitiful statement about being proud to be a jw did i start to think of a simple of way of discrediting the jws... it needed a simple scriptural phrase that causes them to shoot their own foot!.

so - how many different ways can you think of where jws have "gone beyond the things written"?.

GLTirebiter

Excellent, belbab!

What does Jesus say is necessary for salvation? In John Chapter 6 (verse 31 and onward), it is believe in the Son of Man, eat his body, drink his blood and you will have eternal life--if you do not, you will have no life in you. The Watchtower says the "great crowd" must not partake, that they are unworthy of that gift and the eternal life it promises; they say that only the exclusive "annointed class" is worthy to partake, only they are worthy of eternal life.

Whether you take the literal meaning of Matthew 26:26-28, Mark 14:22-24 and Luke 22:19-20 or believe that the Lord was speaking symbolically, what matters is acceptance: do you accept His gift of "the bread from heaven", the "blood of the covenant", and the promise of eternal life that comes with them? That is what the Lord asks us to do. Or will you refuse the gifts the Lord has freely offered to you, thus refusing eternal life? The Watchtower teaches that you, as a member of "the great crowd", must say no to the Lord's offer. Scripturally, Witnesses who follow the WT mandate to not partake will not enjoy "eternal life on a paradise earth", because scripturally they will "have no life in them".

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Pastor Russell Quote Denying New Light that Changes Theology

by mfriend in

i was reading wilbur lingle's book on the jw's and he had the following quote.

below i've pasted a screen pic from my copy of the february 1881 watchtower.

this quote is from charles russell and seems to be devastating to the wt believe in new light:.

GLTirebiter

Excellent find, that's a great first post. Welcome to the forum, mfriend!

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Songs you play when very sad

by JRK in

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here is one i am listening to:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsfl6atx1i4&feature=related.

.

GLTirebiter

Just Give It Away

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I can't believe the irony..

by The Quiet One in

watchtower july 15, 2011 study edition page 12 paragraph 7 'following the crowd would not train our perceptive powers; nor, on the other hand, would a host of rigid rules in matters of conscience.

that is why, for example, jehovah's people are not given a list of films, books, and internet sites to avoid...worse, it would deprive us of the vital work of weighing bible principles carefully and prayerfully and then making decisions on the basis of those principles.

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GLTirebiter

That is why, for example, Jehovah's people are not given a list of films, books, and Internet sites to avoid

I thought it was because the list of permitted films, books and internet sites was so much easier to remember!

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Conscience---Oh really?

by Terry in

whatever else you may think about jehovah's witnesses, what they think about their own "trained christian conscience" is an absolute.. the governing body feeds them what they should think and say and do; they obey.. conversely, what they must not think and say or do must be obeyed absolutely as well.

agreed?.

by internalizing these instructions, directions and taboos all jehovah's witnesses become tuned in to the collective authority of jehovah's "arrangement.".

GLTirebiter

"Conscience Matter" is a euphemism for Watchtower policies requiring "plausible deniability" to avoid legal repercussions. "Coercion Matter" is a more apt term, insofar as the rank and file are concerned.