Posts by GLTirebiter

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How do Jehovahs Witnesses arrive at their explanation of the Bible?

by mankkeli in

this explanation was taken from the reasoning book, page 204.. how do jehovahs witnesses arrive at their explanation of the bible?.

a key factor is that the witnesses really believe that the bible is gods word and that what it contains is there for our instruction.

(2 tim.

GLTirebiter

Your explanation is confusing, [sic] how could christ be with the father and at thesame [sic] time be with those who belong to him?. [sic]

If Christ was only a human being with only a human nature, then that question would be meaningful. But Christ is a spiritual being with a divine nature, existing beyond the realm that we call space and time. He is simultaneously everywhere, while being no place in particular. The divine is not part of the universe; the universe is part of the divine. Not only can Christ be with the Father and all who belong to him, from the Christian viewpoint it could be no other way!

(edited to quote Matthew 28:19-20)

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."

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Zid has to say "goodbye"... For now...

by ziddina in

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friends

my computer-support service has checked my computer because it's been rather "glitchy" lately, and the hard drive is failing.... so, i'll end up being cut-off from the board, for a while.... some of you have my personal phone number, if you need to get in touch.... **********************************************************************.

here's something else that's been bothering me.... we're going to fly out to see the in-laws soon - and i'm very uneasy about flying.... if something should happen to me, could you people please help find good homes for my animals???

they are all indoors animals, have been spayed/neutered, and are pretty good with dogs.... there are six cats - the seventh one, minx, will have to be "put down", as she is slowly dying of feline leukemia, and is far too "high-maintenance" for anyone else to care for.... but there's chomper - a neutered male, six-toed cat, somewhat feral but ferociously loyal to anyone who will be patient with him - and feed him wet food... he's a big, short-haired grey-and-black tabby... unfortunately, in the process of the hard-drive decay, my computer no longer recognizes my crappy printer, and so i can't load a pix of chomper... but he's a big cutie!!.

GLTirebiter

Have a safe trip!

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The WATCHTOWER isn't DECEITFUL , they are just IMPERFECT

by Minimommi in

i recently started questioning my beliefs and i am not happy with what i found out.

i am married to a born in who admits that wtbs has some problems.

one of his favorite scriptures to quote is psalms 146:3 to "not put your trust in nobles", including the so called fds.

GLTirebiter

Sounds like your hubby is in DENIAL!

One part denial, two parts conflict between the WT personality and his real personality. When the WT personality is in charge, nothing you do or say gets past the conditioned defenses of WT indoctrination. Look for the times when he's relating to you with his real personality. That is when you have a chance to be heard. It sounds like he's often using that with you; that is the time when you can really communicate with each other.

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Zid has to say "goodbye"... For now...

by ziddina in

jw
friends

my computer-support service has checked my computer because it's been rather "glitchy" lately, and the hard drive is failing.... so, i'll end up being cut-off from the board, for a while.... some of you have my personal phone number, if you need to get in touch.... **********************************************************************.

here's something else that's been bothering me.... we're going to fly out to see the in-laws soon - and i'm very uneasy about flying.... if something should happen to me, could you people please help find good homes for my animals???

they are all indoors animals, have been spayed/neutered, and are pretty good with dogs.... there are six cats - the seventh one, minx, will have to be "put down", as she is slowly dying of feline leukemia, and is far too "high-maintenance" for anyone else to care for.... but there's chomper - a neutered male, six-toed cat, somewhat feral but ferociously loyal to anyone who will be patient with him - and feed him wet food... he's a big, short-haired grey-and-black tabby... unfortunately, in the process of the hard-drive decay, my computer no longer recognizes my crappy printer, and so i can't load a pix of chomper... but he's a big cutie!!.

GLTirebiter

My computer-support service has checked my computer because it's been rather "glitchy" lately, and the hard drive is failing...

Leave the Sunday paper ad inserts where your husband will find them, drop hints about how old and troublesome your computer is, talk about the big Black Friday sales coming up this week, and how Christmas/Solstice is coming up soon...

Just sayin'...

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The WATCHTOWER isn't DECEITFUL , they are just IMPERFECT

by Minimommi in

i recently started questioning my beliefs and i am not happy with what i found out.

i am married to a born in who admits that wtbs has some problems.

one of his favorite scriptures to quote is psalms 146:3 to "not put your trust in nobles", including the so called fds.

GLTirebiter

They incorrectly believe that if you don't support Jehovah 100%, then you probably aren't a faithful marriage partner. This may sound crazy, but it's the first thing that pops into their heads, many times.

Agree! This is a trust-killer for both marital partners. It destroys the faith in each other that is the foundation of a marital partnership.

or [if] he sees any outright DECEIT.

Learn about "theocratic warfare". Though now it is phrased in more legally defensible language than in the days of Rutherford, the practice endures. But be sure he's open to really hearing what you say before trying to discuss it with him. Be alert for signs of selective hearing; there is no use continuing when the Watchtower "Trained Christian Conscience" makes him hear a Watchtower article instead of the words you are speaking.

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I finally drove off my wonderful jw wife...and i am so sad..

by oompa in

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friends

i helped her move out this weekend so i must be a masochist too...so on top of losing every friend in my life...i have now lost my wife...and yes i asked her to leave on more than one occasion this year...we have argued for nearly five years about wt crap...nothing i could ever say would make her question anything!!!!

it was beyond frustrating...then this spring when i somehow disassociated myself and even lost my parents i knew i would never have a normal marriage no matter what...all i wanted was a normal marriage with mutual friends...that is off the table as long as she is a jw...but why could i not accept it???

why could i not shut up???

GLTirebiter

I'm sorry to hear it, Oompah. Even when you know it's the only way to call a truce between you, separating from the one you love hurts.

Now it's time to take stock of yourself and begin healing. Restore your self-respect, with professional assistance if that's appropriate. If you want to accomplish anything else, you need that first.

If you're expecting to do that with a bottle, put it down and look somewhere else. Please don't give up on yourself!

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Hi... haven't been on the forum for a while... an update on me...and my daughter, Ali

by coffee_black in

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friends

well, it's been a while... haven't been on the forum much lately.

with ali's last health scare, it has been a little overwhelming to keep up with everything.... ali continues to improve, in fact, her heart has improved so much that her cardiologist wants to document her case and publish it.

he has never seen someone improve so quickly.

GLTirebiter

I'm Ali is doing better. Thank you for checking in!

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Battle Over Farmhouse Rented Out As 'An Act Of Charity'

by Bangalore in

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friends

battle over farmhouse rented out as 'an act of charity'.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8884561/battle-over-farmhouse-rented-out-as-an-act-of-charity.html.

bangalore.

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GLTirebiter

That *lifetime* part of the judgement defies reason and equity. The tenanrs were offerred a kindness, and returned it with a legal sanction to occupy the property forever. I don't know how it works in England, but in the absence of a documented lease landlords should be able, on reasonable notice, to raise the rent to a reasonable amount or to end the tenancy.

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In need of advice

by NY23brown in

yet another visit from jw's at our door, demanding to speak to only my husband and claiming to be friends of "his family".

it has reached the point that i contacted the sherriff's department and was informed to sent a certified letter to the local kingdom hall.. dh hasn't been a "witness" since his teen years.

i had a falling out with the in-laws (avid jw's) over them hitting our daughter while we were on vacation visiting them.

GLTirebiter

He's claiming she is not behind these visits

I can't help wondering if he isn't behind the visits. He's acting like he's mentally in the Kingdom Hall, even if he isn't physically there. I can't say for sure this is the case with your DH, but there's a saying among volunteer firemen: "When the going gets rough, you revert to your training." His training was at the Kingdom Hall. Keep that in mind.

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Julian's marching band become Michigan grand champions for 2011

by FlyingHighNow in

julian started his freshman year at jenison high school this year.

he has played trumpet in their highly awarded band programs since 6th grade.

he was going to go home to live with his mother, when he changed his mind and begged to stay and participate in their marching band.. jenison marching band is widely recognized and has won many awards over the years.

GLTirebiter

Wow, that's great! Tell Julian congratulations for the fine performance and hard work.