Posts by GLTirebiter

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Do You Believe Abortion Is Wrong? Should It Be Against The Law?

by minimus in

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what say you?.

GLTirebiter

If God didnt make a Law against having sex with your daughter

Leviticus 18:6

"None of you shall approach any one near of kin to him to uncover nakedness. I am the LORD.

I dont think he cared about abortion.

Genesis 9:5-7 (sanctity of life)

For your lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning; of every beast I will require it and of man; of every man's brother I will require the life of man. Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for God made man in his own image. And you, be fruitful and multiply, bring forth abundantly on the earth and multiply in it.

Exodus 21:22-25 (causing "miscarriage" is a crime)

When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Jeremiah 1:4-5 (humanity of the pre-born)

Now the word of the LORD came to me saying, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."

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Talking Points for when Witnesses Come to your Door

by truth_b_known in

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a few weeks back i came home from work and found the latest copies of the watchtower (armageddon fearmongering) and awake!

(social media site nonsense) lying on the counter.

it was obvious witnesses had stopped by the house.

GLTirebiter

(open door)

"I'm sorry, but we are not interested. Please mark us down as a 'do not call' on your territory card. Thank you, and have a nice day!"

(close door)

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The Surprising Faith Of 8 American Presidents... # 6 is interesting!

by koolaid-man in

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/darrin-grinder/the-presidents-and-their-_b_1283210.html.

6. dwight d. eisenhower.

eisenhower may have been instrumental in bringing "under god" to the pledge of allegiance and making "in god we trust" the national motto, but he was reared in a religious tradition that does not allow its adherents to take oaths of office or to recite the pledge of allegiance--the jehovah's witnesses (a religion/denomination born in the united states, as was mormonism).

GLTirebiter

First, doctrines of the Bible Students of Russell's time differ greatly from the Watchtower Society doctrines of Rutherford (and Fred Franz, etc.). So you cannot claim that Eisenhower ever held beliefs associated with the present-day Watchtower Society merely because he was "born into" a significantly different religion, which he abandoned long before he became president.

Second, going to West Point and fighting in the American army in two world wars marks him as an apostate, not a Witness.

Eisenhower was a Witness about as much as Nixon was a Quaker. (I'm surprised that Nixon didn't earn a spot on this list.)

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As a JW, did you eat at any religious restaurant?

by Iamallcool in

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my jw parents refused to eat food from religious restaurant, they have very good reviews.

i was wondering when you were jw, did you go to any religious restaurant?

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GLTirebiter

It's no different than shopping at Hobby Lobby, or eating at Chik-Fi-Lay (sp?). Both are closed on Sundays so employees do not have to work on the Christian sabbath. My JW ex had no problem with doing so.

(edit to add)

And how about those demonic Chinese restaurants, with fortune cookies and the Chinese horoscope printed on the place mats?

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What do you think of a Jehovahs Witness doing?

by garyneal in

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my wife, a jehovahs witness, buys our daughter valentines and lollipops with a valentines day theme.

she then takes the time to put them together the night before valentines day and sends them with our daughter to school on valentines day.

what would you think of such a jehovahs witness?.

GLTirebiter

That's good news. What ever you're doing Gary, it seems to be helping. keep it up!

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Does your heart still race when suddenly coming accross a JW?

by Fernando in

it did for me even though i eventually walked out on my terms and fully convinced of the apostasy of the watchtower pharisees and sanhedrin (governing body).. initially it was very confusing and bewildering since i was a 3rd generation born-in and the watchtower was the only "reality" i'd known for more than 40 years.. a psychologist diagnosed ptsd (post traumatic stress disorder) and recommended attending a cult conference and workshop for victims of psychological manipulation.

i learnt about "triggers" that cause turmoil and upset whilst one is suffering from ptsd.. for nearly 2 years i could not answer a phone without a minor panic attack.

i could only respond to voicemails.

GLTirebiter

That depends who it is. Seeing my kids definitely perks me up!

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Are elders ordained ministers?

by love11 in

GLTirebiter

This is correct and is the JW view. BOTR, the JW's believe baptism provides the legitimacy and ordains them. So whatever your views of ministers and ordained may be, in JWland they are ordained.

I have read the same, but I think the OP and BOTR are discussing who is ordained in the eyes of the state--allowed to officiate at a wedding, for example. In that context I'd say elders do perform the role of "ordained ministers", while pioneers are non-ordained missionaries. I'm undecided about MS; that's a close call.

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"Get out of the bleachers and into the game"... Memorial 2012 demonstration.

by koolaid-man in

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now is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall thursday, april 5, 2012, after sundown.. close to 20 million people will attend this annual global witness event including active witnesses, relatives and friends of witnesses, bible studies,return visits and still attached former witnesses.

the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.. many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses and you can be an instrumental force by standing tall and courageously exposing the watchtower organization.. there is no better way to let the watchtower know your revulsion than to broadcast and present your view by standing fearlessly, demonstrating in front of a kingdom hall.. i am fully aware that a handful of the internet therapists who post on this forum will not agree with this method of unmasking the watchtower.. those intolerant, contemptuous critics who will comment on this thread making harsh judgements and finding fault with those who protest are perhaps deep-down wishing they had the backbone to stop hiding in cyber-space, step away from their computer and "get out of the bleachers and into the game" .

lets make this a global event!......