Posts by GLTirebiter

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"we were just talking...shes not free to remarry...we werent flirting or doing anything wrong"

by WuzLovesDubs in

thats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.

i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.

he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".

GLTirebiter

...a recovering alcoholic and had stopped drinking after he beat me and choked me in 06 and I had to get a restraining order...

he brought in a water glass 3/4 full of wine and proceeded to down that in front of me...

Im looking for a good divorce lawyer as we speak...

Be sure to give the lawyer all the facts about that incident in '06. You should seek another restraining order along with the divorce filing. If he's drinking again, there is a good chance he will lose control again. Protect yourself, take no chances!

all bets of being NICE about it are off the table.

Not being nice--understood. But be cool and businesslike, not vindictive. Don't give him a chance to paint you as being uncooperative or spiteful in front of a judge. Let him be the irrational party.

I'm sorry to hear it's come to this, Wuz, but I think you're right--it's time to end the madness.

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"we were just talking...shes not free to remarry...we werent flirting or doing anything wrong"

by WuzLovesDubs in

thats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.

i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.

he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".

GLTirebiter

Are you looking he said? I said um no...we arent even divorced yet. He said well....I dont plan on staying single long but then that will be up to what you do.

It is just twisted, even downright sick, that he expects you to sink to his level just so he can marry Sister Homewrecker in the Kingdom Hall. If he wants to play the Watchtower game, he's the one who must live by the Watchtower rules. Don't let him (and the GB) manipulate you.

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Who has killed more Jehovah's Witnesses....Hitler...or the Governing Body of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

by Balaamsass in

another thread on this site is discussing the number of jehovah's witnesses killed in nazi germany ( 2000-2500), and a couple of threads have discussed the high incidence of suicide among jehovah's witnesses.

(many victims of rape, child molesting, or cruel judicial actims).

it occured to me with over seven million jws, it is likely the governing body probably has greater blood guilt than even adolf hitler.. what do you think?

GLTirebiter

Here's a simlpe estimate. The no-blood policy has been in place since 1945, for 67 years now. Using the higher number for deaths in the concentration camps (2500), it would take (on average) less than 40 deaths per year to match that figure. So I suspect that the blood policy has indeed killed more JWs than the Hitler did, because they've been at it for so much longer.

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Scientific Careers and Race

by Quendi in

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GLTirebiter

to imagine that Nature has given us all the same potential, and that a single act of will can suddently cause all limitations to vanish.

I agree that an "act of will" cannot make limitations and differences vanish. But that misses a point that is equally important: that the act of neglect, of not challenging ourselves to find what our limitations are really are, changes imaginary limitations into self-perpetuating, unchallenged constraints. Differences in aptitudes are real, inherent limitations; differences in attitudes are man-made burdens.

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Daniel 8:20,21 - what do secular authorities say?

by konceptual99 in

i am looking for anything that suggests there is a rational explaination for daniel apparently predicting the rise of greece as a world power.

there is some stuff online suggesting that scholars years ago thought it was modified over time but evidence points to it having been written in the 6th centuary bc and they have been forced to correct their view.. is there anything anywhere that presents the accepted secular view of this passage?.

cheers.

GLTirebiter

My question about Daniel is that it predicted the Roman Empire? Would that be evidence of prophecy fulfilled?

Given book was completed during the Selucid period, it was not much of a prediction. Greece was in decline, and Rome (still a republic at the time) a rising power. The Maccabeans knew of Rome, and allied themselves with Rome and Sparta (related in 1 Maccabees 12).

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Tiresome Speculation

by Wayward Son in

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friends

the boys at wt hq seem pretty sincere about the end being just a whisper away.

much of what they are doing smells of a batten down the hatches and brace for impact mindset.

i know this is a drum they have been beating for decades, but.... [if !supportlists]- [endif]the intensity seems to be ramping up.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]they know more about the lawsuits, low baptisms, youth retention rate, apostate uprising, etc... than we do.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]i think many of them really believe they are gods one true organization and they view these events as prophesy-fulfilling.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]i think they foresee their own impending demise.. they are taking all the guess work out of the state of their stability.

GLTirebiter

It runs in cycles.

Another round of tiresome speculation...

A few years later, these predictions have failed to transpire (just like all that came before them)...

Some members see the "new light" was nothing but the same old darkness, and move on away from the organization...

The others show their dedication by staying, and eagerly accept the next round of tiresome speculation...

and so it goes, as it has for over a century.

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If Serena wins gold, will she stand for the US Anthem?

by Open mind in

they're playing right now and serena is ahead 6-0, 5-1.. .

thoughts?.

om.

GLTirebiter

Serena will thank Jehovah and the country for the opportunity to represent it

In the post-match interview, when asked what it was like to represent her country etc., her answer was long and seemed evasive--nothing about country. But to her credit, among all the "Oh my gosh!" exclamations, I heard not a single "Thank you, Jah!" A lesson learned, perhaps?

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I have decided that the "amatuer status" of Olymic Athletes is bogus.

by james_woods in

i am listening to the "outrage" over how the u.s. basketball team totally swamped the nigerian team.. they are accused of being "professionals" and of "running up the score".. well - here is my observation: none of these athletes are really, truly, "amatuers" - all of them have some kind of sponshorship or support.. so did the ancient greeks - they were essentially government employees of their day.. let's get over it and let the best athletes play the best athletes.. if the u.s. can beat uzbekistan in football, so be it.

if the gdr can beat us in target shooting, so be it.. i agree with no drugs - i agree with no men dressed up as women, but this "amatuer status" thing is bogus - and not a part of the ancient tradition either.. rant over - i leave you to your scheduled programming..

GLTirebiter

The IRS doesn't think they're amateurs. They want to collect income tax on the value of their medals and prize money. It seems that many national Olympic committees pay prize money to medal winners, including the USOC.

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Do You Like or Dislike Algebra? Why and Why not?

by Scott77 in

july 28, 2012is algebra necessary?by andrew hacker .

a typical american school day finds some six million high school students and two million college freshmen struggling with algebra.

in both high school and college, all too many students are expected to fail.

GLTirebiter

Why are college freshman even taking algebra? For students attending a four-year college, that is remedial work. They should have two years of algebra, one of geometry, and one of trigonometery under their belts before graduating high school. Yes, that means four years of college-prep math. It is shameful that colleges and college students must routinely waste time (and tuition money) doing what should have been done in high school.

Mathematics is part of the curriculum for the same reason that literature, history, economics, laboratory science and social science is required for college-bound students. You need a broad, comprehensive foundation to understand the connections between the branches of knowledge.

The solution to large numbers of students failing algebra is not abandoning rigor in the curriculum. If anything, a general strengthening of academic standards is warranted. Dedicated teachers who refuse to accept the "I can't do it!" alibi prove the point. The late Jaime Escalante (of Stand and Deliver fame) is the best known example, but there others like him. Unfortunately, there are not enough others, nor enough school administrators with the courage to allow those extraordinary teachers to do their best.

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses feed the starving in third world countries

by Gnosis in

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or do they only help their own members ?.

is there anything in their publications that seems to cast a negative view on feeding the poor ?.

GLTirebiter

First things first..I see that the spanking room is in place!