I remember being a witness and hearing about the apostates who say OOOOhhhh ...the end is near! Whatever dude! hahahahaha!!!
But for real, you make total sense and I am scratching my head in amazement that I used to fall for this $hiznit
i know, i know... some of ya'll are gettin' sick of this "generation" thing... .
but for whatever reason, i had not seen this actual quote from the dc talk (that or had not paid much attention to it until now).
seeing it in print really brought home how desparate they are to try to hang on to 1914 in whatever way they can.
I remember being a witness and hearing about the apostates who say OOOOhhhh ...the end is near! Whatever dude! hahahahaha!!!
But for real, you make total sense and I am scratching my head in amazement that I used to fall for this $hiznit
didnt think i'd say this, but i am.
maybe you newbies have no clue who i am, but i was absolutely addicted to this site for over a year.
now, i have no time for jwn.
LoL, Dagney. Yessss, I did have 2 , but I wasnt drunkie drunk. You're funny.
The witnesses have so many ways to turn and flip things around so we dont actually remember what we thought. Because of the trouble my brain cells went through during my self destructive phases, I second guessed so much. But when I was told that the UN was NEVER spoken of badly and that the brothers who enter Bethel take a tour of the UN, I almost . I absolutely, positively, remember being about 10 years old and sitting like a good girl, waiting to be called on although I didnt raise my hand, in order to announce what a harlot that DaRn Babylon the Great is.
ThinkAboutIt: hehe, Thanks. You're just sayin that because I posted my picture on here like a dumb dumb one night when I'd have more than 2
Sooner7NC.... More H-E-double toothpicks to come.
Six....WOW... that was a pleasant surprise. I actually kinda forgot that I'd posted this. But the hubby left for a bachelor party and I'm bored tonight, lol.... wow. thank you. I think you're pretty darn cool too, and I aLLLLways think of you whenever I see a Dr.Seuss phrase. Ohhhhh the places you'll go
GL.... tRUST me, I didnt say I'm over all bad habits. I'm addicted to Taco Bell and I cuss like a sailor when I'm behind slow drivers . I guess, though, the major addictions and self destructive behavior are done with
CyberJesus....lol... no, you're still fLucked.
JamieBowers, your pm and comments have really helped me heal . I have not experienced that same that you have, but I could relate to many of the things you shared.
Peaches.....for REAL.
" The marvelous richness of human experience would lose
something of rewarding joy if there were no limitations to overcome.
The hilltop hour would not be half so wonderful if there were no dark
valleys to traverse."
~ Helen Keller
Changeling, I see what you're saying. I am still surrounded (though not personally) by jw's. My business has just moved into a wonderful, new location (100 x's better than my former place).... its always on my mind to set an example to anyone who needs to escape
Snowbird, you have NEVER commented on any of my posts. Whoa. I'm honored.
Zoiks, your story has definitely inspired me as well
Bluesapphire:
Post 2303 of 2304 Since 3/26/2000 | AwSnap! You are the bomb! One word of advice though: Give them the finger and tell them not to bother coming to your house. Just allowing the visit gives them this feeling of power over you. Whenever I run into a JW or elder or anything like your sitch, I tell then, "Nah, I'm too busy to meet with you. I know where to find you if I ever need to." I always have this really sweet smile when I say it and use my sweetest sugar pie voice too. Plain and simple. And it feels SOOOOO GOOOOOOD! It's like saying FU with a sweet voice and smile on your face. LOL! That's kinda how it went down! Its been a few months, but basically the lovely elders told me that I was more than welcome to consider my baptism invalid....AS LONG AS I GOT RE-BAPTIZED AND ONLY THEN. Of course, there have been so many lightbulb moments, but this was yet another one. ReaLLY? JehooBa needs me to get RE-baptized in order to show that my first baptism didnt mean sQuat? Yeeeeeah, this is Soooooo the tRUTH. When the elder drove up to me and said this, I said, "ohhhh, you know, I've just moved my business & am sooooo busy. Let me get (HUBBY) to give you a call when its good for us." lol |
Quirky1, Yessssss. its taken over a decade...but then again, I'm a slow learner. Seriously, DaMN, it feels REALLY good. Would I be considered an apostate if I said, "I believe you are in a cult but I have NO desire to get you out?" because we are going to a jw wedding soon and I think I may use that line
Ps...I cracked myself up when I realized that I mentioned my drug use 7 years ago, tWICE (in my initial post). I really am a smart person, but I have serious short term memory damage. hehe
didnt think i'd say this, but i am.
maybe you newbies have no clue who i am, but i was absolutely addicted to this site for over a year.
now, i have no time for jwn.
p.s.... I officially got out of debt today. wooPWOOP! I did it.....but much with the support of others.
didnt think i'd say this, but i am.
maybe you newbies have no clue who i am, but i was absolutely addicted to this site for over a year.
now, i have no time for jwn.
Didnt think I'd say this, but I am. Maybe you newbies have no clue who I am, but I was absolutely addicted to this site for over a year. Now, I have no time for JWN. I have tried about 7 times in the last month to check up and see what's new, but I log out just about 5 minutes after I log in.
About 5 months ago, my jw sibling told me that he/she never remembered that the UN was spoken of negatively (and that the red-headed slut named Babylon was pictured in the Revelation Book in the 80's). Flabbergasted and Astounded, I became convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the jw's are....maybe not a total cult...but DEFINITELY NOT UNIQUE AND ABSOLUUUUUTELY UNDER MIND CONTROL.
I left the jw's (unannounced/faded) in the late 90's (yet I have many aquaintances still "in"). Today, I ran into a jw elder. I was running into our local hardware store as he was pulling out. I thought a nice 'wave' & smile would suffice, but he stopped and said 'hey! Me & _____ want to stop by...when would be a good time?'
I am READY. Bring it. They hold no power over me. NONE. Really. Really. REALLY. I cannot believe that I used to get up at 5a to make pasta salad for assemblies. I've HATED pasta salad for years. But I just had some today that was amazing. I have recovered. Not everything reminds me of being a JW.
If you need my support, please PM me. To be honest, it may be a lil while before I get back to you. While I do NOT think about the jw's like I did even a couple months ago, I care about you & will direct you to someone who may be able to help.
This may be a very tough time in your life. But let me just tell you: I unofficially left over ten years ago. Since then, I went into a major depression, got into drugs (7 years ago), alcohol, terrible friends, wonderful friends, terrible jobs, fantastic jobs, aweful peers, amazing women & men, cigarettes (its been 3 years), drugs (its been 7 years since that ended), government assistance, self-assistance (YAY!...STILL THERE!). I now own my own business. Even going through school, I was very self-destructive...
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I'm not 'there' anymore. I feel so good and I have made some amazing, wonderful friends...some ex-JW's, some non-jw's, and some who have no idea what jw's believe. I am so blessed. Do not confuse this with --->"I have no stress in my life".
BOOOOOLogna.... I've got lots of stress. But I'm done with school. I own my own business now. I'm hounding my hubby for a baby now because I dont believe the big A is about to hit us . And ....now...I know I'm right. I honor life. And I respect life. We dont own every minute...it could end anytime. I am thankful and I tell everyone I love them. Contact me if you need support
the content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: safeguard your spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the wt/gb is loosing the grip of rank & file.
they are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of mind control techniques; in my opinion, their mind control techniques used to be more subtle.
but the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation.
Has most of the country had their circuit assemblies?
i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.
i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.
i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.
I might add one more "must read" to the list and that is Richard Friedman's Who Wrote the Bible?
Not sure why you're recommending this book. Gutted requesting information about the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses and that book has absolutely nothing to do with either.
Gutted, nobody has ever tried to 'convert' me into being an atheist. Yes, there are quite a few atheists on here. And yes, I have real life friends who are atheists, but they have never attempted to convert me or anyone I know. The book mentioned above is a good read. You may want to put it on the back burner for now, but definitely keep it on the list. Me, I'm agnostic....searching, but not desperately. My main goal is to give thanks. Whomever made me understands why I'm not certain who He/She/They/It is...and I don't believe I will die at Armageddon because I don't want to be a JW.
As a side note, while many are "love bombing" you right now, I think that's normal. Everyone truly is excited to have you here and welcomes any questions you may have. What happens when you make a new friend? Do you stay excited forEVER? No... the love bombing will chill out a bit, but after 8 months of being here, I've found that my comments are still welcomed and appreciated. Unlike with the JW's, their love bombing ends and the expectations go through the roof and everything becomes conditional. BIG DIFF.
i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.
i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.
i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.
That's funny...as I was reading Gutted's testimonial, I kept thinking "he needs to get in touch with Flipper"...and Flipper was the next one to comment! Gutted, you're not alone. There are many wonderful people on this board. Keep reading and searching.
over the years since i left jehovahs witnesses, one of the more fascinating things to observe, and really to me, the most important, is what to do after you leave.. to be sure, no one leaves because of a positive experience.
and therein lies the issues with leaving.
basically, people leave in three general ways: 1. they, like myself, resign or leave due to a disagreement.
Beautifully written, Jeff.
i had my religious view on my facebook profile stating that i am a cult survivor.
my dad saw it and is trying to get the family to not speak to me..
I cant offer any advice. He's your dad...not sure of your relationship with him? I'm sorry he's doing this to you though. I can relate. My father always warned my boyfriends about ME, even though I was just faded. He would tell them that I'm bad association and that they could do better. He even had a sit-down talk with my now-husband to warn him about me. Now, I just realize it's the cult mentality. They think they're doing it for Jehovah. But its still annoying as $hit.
i have been in a world of pain this weekend.. some of you know the ongoing battle i have had with my ex wife, an uber dub hypocrite, over seeing my kids more.
3 weeks ago i managed to secure an agreement from her that provided my 13 yr old daughter friday night to sunday afternoons and for my 16 yr old son to have friday night to sat afternoon with the option to extend it to sunday if he so desires.
this is each second weekend.. first due weekend visit she rearranged the days so that she was technically pre agreement start date.
Wow! I've followed your story on here....you are doing the right thing!!! I guess there's just never an easy answer when one person involved decides to play dirty (your ex). But I really believe you did the right thing.